Square really went with that for the sats symbol 👎
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No coiners won't understand if you put anything else. I'm not saying it's optimal, I'm saying it's practical.
exactly. no one knows wtf the sat symbol is. this is good branding for the normies
Why? The Bitcoin symbol is already on the left as an icon and it says "Bitcoin received". We need the normies to understand Sats as well, otherwise they will be completely confused. They probably know that one Bitcoin costs thousands of US-Dollars, so this won't make sense for them.
it’s good branding for people who are not familiar with bitcoin or sats.
Wait for the lawsuits when someone tries to withdraw their 940 Bitcoin and only receives a few sats 😆
Yikes.
Practical for mainstream adoption. Looks better than 0.00001234-whatever.
If it helps no-coiners and noobies come on board, then i accept it.
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I’ll never call sats bitcoins, bits or whatever. Either normies learn the difference, or they can HFSP. You can’t fix stupidity if you make things stupid. You only help making dumb people even more dumb. nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wvh8xmmrd9skcqgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46qddtc35 come on!
Proposal just put a period in front of the symbol, like:
.B
Also someone teach me how to get symbol on iPhone?
the merchant can select sats or bitcoin ( at least in dashboard )
I can't select sats in cash app. Only Bitcoin or Bitcoins... Differentiated by a word or a symbol. Fucking retarded.
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It’s ⚡️ and we all know it
Not hating for the work they've done to make spending Bitcoin easier, but....
Extremely confusing to "normies" as they probably know that one Bitcoin costs thousands of US-Dollars as seen on the news.
Btw the exchange rate has decimal digits? 940.96 Sats for 1 USD? That's very precise, lol.
Ughhhhh
Most recognizable Bitcoin symbol out there. It's a quick way to teach them about sats, I guess!
Love it!! 🧡👌
Bits makes more sense than sats, 10mil bits to a bitcoin. Use a lowercase b with a dollar sign for bits, uppercase b with dollar sign for whole coin. Show exchange rate (950 bits = $1 on the screen) prior to purchase
Bad argument. Let's make a new unit for 10s of cents. Does that make that way make more sense than cents? No. Smallest subunit is what's defined in currency. Bitcoin has 8 decimal places. The smallest subunit is what should be defined. Not an arbitrary decimal point.
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Amazing rollout but “forcing” this display unit while the whole network already uses the bitcoin/satoshi standards is non sense. It’s equivalent to using the mile unit in Europe, nobody does that and it just makes it more difficult, confusing and error prone to interface with Square bitcoin.
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I like it
i can’t accept. how do u see a whole bitcoin? i really wanna know.
or lets just do-away with 100,000,000 altogether? asking
it only feels like restart for those who didn’t buy bitcoin at a dollar.
OR u must be thinking a dollar is a dollar whether its 100 thousand or just 2. shouldn’t change names just because we want fractionalize it.
damn u got me thinking. i don’t wanna like it so stop. lol.
lowercase 'b' is sats 
Sats already have a symbol: https://satsymbol.com/
yea but that doesn't look like anything to anybody
Universal kebab sign.
It looks like doner kebab to me. 😂
And a lower case b with a squiggle up top does? That's a very poor argument to make. No currency symbol looks like anything to anyone until they're told what it is.
The Thai Baht ฿ was originally used as the Bitcoin symbol until ₿ was added to Unicode.
We can repeat a similar process, temporarily appropriating ƀ until Unicode adds a lowercase b with a vertical stroke.
Besides, Ethereum already uses the uppercase Greek letter Xi, Ξ, for Ether
Or we could just use the miscellaneous symbol that a lot of people already use for sats and already exists in Unicode U+2BD2 ⯒
that character didn't render in amethyst. what is it?
Whats wrong with 丰
1. wtf is that thing - it has no connection to any existing symbols or semantics
2. ether already uses it
3. a lowercase "b" is clearly related to the uppercase "B" and makes everyone happy - the people who want the "B" in there can compromise, and the people who want "sats" can be happy we're not using the "B" and can adjust to "b" meaning "sats"
People are already very, very accustomed to thinking in terms of Dollars and Cents. They can easily swap in whole "bitcoin" for "dollar" and "sats" for cents. Giving them symbols that are obvious (a lowercase "b" seems like a "little version" of the uppercase "B" they've seen everywhere) seems like a much friendlier ramp from stuff they're used to than some bizarre tree-looking thing. Bitcoin is weird enough and has enough new concepts as is.
This argument doesn't make sense in a sea of counterexamples.
I guess in a way you lowercase b idea is easy to understand and adopt, but the sat symbol on multiple different services is a vertical line with 3 horizontal lines going though it. But you've converted me 😂
I know that three horizontal line thing is pretty ubiquitous. We'll have to smash it together, now that you're converted ⚔
1. It is connected to the sat symbol: https://satsymbol.com/
2. No, it doesn't
3. Lower casing the subunit is a made up convention, and already has a use.
No thanks, I'll stick to the sat symbol.
what makes that symbol the sat symbol?
It was somehow upvoted on Twitter quite a bit. All I know. I liked it until the b. Now I'm a b maxi
right, its just "the thing" because people liked it. they might also like the "b" - maybe more?
honestly, the "call sats 'bitcoin'" crowd is powerful and influential (especially with Square now) so just practically an alternative proposal that is going to have a chance can't ignore their success and try to do something else entirely - it probably needs to be a kind of concilitory response to the ground they've already gained. hence the 'b'.
"we get it, you're winning. will you compromise and at least just not use the uppercase 'B'? we can agree to that compromise". its like that.
I thought the ϟ are bitcoin (lol I have lightning bolt saved as keyboard thing for word sats) thing was just a troll. It's silly imo, but don't care too much. I like bits too, since playing a little poker recently where that denomination of chips made the most sense.
The kebab symbol is overly complex and probably got upvoted because it felt like more impact per vote. Who wants to vote for boring "b"
I agree with all this. (probably even including the "bits" bit, but i'm still figuring that one out).
2. ETH uses Ξ . the similarity to the ultimate shitcoin is too much for me
3. and this 'sats symbol' isn't a made up convention? it's all made up, we're making it all up. we've got a chance to make something up that a wider audience will be able to recognize.
you really don't think that lowercasing a subunit doesn't have an immediate rationale to it, even for the uninitiated?
besides, the convention isn't *entirely* novel:
in computing, bytes are B, bits are b.
chemistry: m vs M (molal vs molar concentration)
math: p vs P (probability value vs measure)
I'm just saying if we're making it all up, you can't pretend like lower casing is some kind of well-known convention for currency subunits, when it really isn't. I get the rationalle of it, but it's not convincing.
A b will cause more confusion, because it's unclear what it stands for? "Bits"? "Bats"?
Sats are absolutely not bitcoins (boo BIP-177 👎), and the symbol for it shouldn't even hint that way.
Besides, we have a symbol for sats, and it's an interesting, beautiful, meaningful and unique one. 😍
Well we definitely agree that sats are not bitcoins :)
It's the Kanji for "bountiful". Not a coincidence: https://satsymbol.com/
good symbol
vertical line will be better
I still love this https://www.satsymbol.com
It's a cool symbol, but the one nostr:nprofile1qqsza748zkamgmw4he4hm2xhwqpxd5gkwju38wqh3twmtshx8kv8xvgppamhxue69uhkgctdw4eju6t09uq3vamnwvaz7tm9v3jkutnwdaehgu3wd3skuep0qyv8wumn8ghj7enfd36x2u3wdehhxarj9emkjmn99uphz3ay is using is easier to write. I like that one more.
It also has the advantage of being in the available unicode set on most machines (because it's a symbol for the Thai Baht, which curiously is divided into 100 "satang"...)
The original ₿ started off as an appropriation of the ฿ until a proposal was accepted to add ₿ to unicode: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_baht#Bitcoin
So we'd just be repeating this process for the lowercase for sats :)
Wait I got my facts a bit wrong. the ƀ is not associated with the baht. but the overall point remains:
We use ƀ until Unicode adds a "b" with vertical bar, like it did for ₿
🤔 maybe Satoshi was/is Thai... No one ever suspects the Thai... Historically friendly with Japan, too. Hmm. Hmmmmmm 🤔
Definitely a better option.
oh, that's lovely
What's a bitcoins? Makes no sense.
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*sats
Sats are sats. We also have a great symbol for it, although not in unicode yet.
If ₿ is sats, how do you type 100m sats (1 Bitcoin)?
Or is the idea to completely ditch the 100m number and reactor everything as sats/₿?
BTC
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Why is it still sats in cash app?
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Bitpence or something like that, with the symbol, maybe. But we're not rebranding ∞/21M. 
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Bruh you just missed a teaching opportunity for 4 million businesses. Sats has been established for awhile now. wtf.
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no. samekh
Except they're not Bitcoins.
Lemme ask you is there $100 in 1 Dollar?
Sats are the standard. Change it back and keep this train going. No one asked for this. No one uses this. Just you. You just unilaterally decided it. I'm not saying you don't have the right. It's your company. By all means do as you please. But this is confusing as hell and does not clarify or distinguish anything.
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I accept calling them Bitcoin's if the network consensus updates to allow another division into another 100,000,000 pieces lol.
$ats would look stupid
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How about if people call
1 SAT = 1 Bitcoin
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1 sat = 1 square bitcoin = 0.00000001 bitcoin
Will 0.1 ₿ be enough to retire in? I’m confused
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Cash App begs to differ... 
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Honor Satoshi: Sats are the standard.
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Bitcoins... many, many bitcoins
This is confusing
I think we should give them some time, if it is used more frequently they will improve it. I guess at the moment, it was more important to ship the feature than to make it beautiful.
What are you talking about. They MADE THE DECISION to use the bitcoin symbol for satoshis, it’s not like it’s a draft feature 😂
I think some poor dev had to do something quite quickly without a big design in mind and without knowledge of BTC and the community surrounding it.
They are working on this for a long time and it’s a massive change to their whole codebase, database and accounting principles. So no. nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43qz9rhwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjmcycwfys has been pushing this non sense (IMO) for a long time already.
Maybe still the UI is absolutely not gone through a lot of quality checks, left is a different 'b' than right and it looks not coherent at all.
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This whole discussion on 'are those fractions of a bitcoin called bits, sats or just bitcoin' I get it for the newbies, 'Satoshi's are cents?' hmm. 'Is is not some other crypto coin?'
Bits sounds most sensible to me and sats feels nostalgic, but bitcoins? 🤨
I image only some whale hodler some day might by accident send me 2000 bitcoin thinking its 2000 sats/bits. Wouldn't that be horrible.
Bits are 100 sats. 312 sats = 3.12 bits = 3 bits and 12 sats.
Which is why bits are also retarded. Currency should have a full unit and a smallest subunit. Nothing else makes sense and we've never done it any other way.
Well... Quarters, nickels, dimes... But I also think bits are retarded. A bit is the smallest unit of data in a computer, which is not equivalent to a unit of value in any sense
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I’m not saying it couldn’t grow on me with time, but I’m not sold on it yet 😂
I dont like it either. But I have a sense bitcoin UX specifically, will optimise for userw that are not like us.
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Loving all the responses. I can see sats being called bitcoins and as ngu whole coins will be referred to as Bitcoin, plus they'll be referred to less, like we use trillion but just not as often as smaller denominations
Unit bias FTW
Wtf is wrong with Dorsey? Doesn’t he see that no one want this?
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