lol imagine the outrage if a title like this was about any other race or sex. Some poor "journalism" from nostr:npub1va6zy0gmr8wp2328xw4h2kdvmcwjrl0nl6djv5kyv0rl4kcjcppqvzckg7
https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/22/metas-new-ai-council-is-comprised-entirely-of-white-men/
White men make up only 30% of the US population, but they hold 62% of all elected offices.
White men have about 8 times as much political power as their share of the population suggests.
For as long as America has been a country, the straight white American man has been "king of the hill".
White men have held disproportionate political control and power in the United States for centuries, since the founding of the country.
etc etc etc...
What % of the world population are they?
Far less, but they have colonized and controlled far more.
Men have always been in power, since biblical times. White men are the American ruling class and have been for centuries. The journalism is valid. It punches up at the ruling class.
I think the article would have benefitted from being less polemic and more pursuasive. Reads too much like preaching to the choir and ignores the mental and emotional diversity that white American men (and Asian men, as they're the foreign competition) display.
They are, after all, a gigantic group and overrepresented in the scientic/engineering specialty. You could select differently among that group and get a better result.
Men tend to be in power because wielding power is a dangerous act of violence.
Women can only be in power if men abdicate power, but then we are only in power at their leisure, which is a form of benevolent condescension that promotes cognitive dissonance. I think society pays a high price for this, especially when it tries to enforce strict quotas.
I prefer to focus on making sure representatives are truly considering the interests of all constituents.
To illustrate, I wouldn't feel better represented by a female radfem, socialist from Seattle than by a Catholic family guy, Bitcoiner from Annapolis because I'd expect him to at least know and like people more like myself.
I also think there are different forms of power, that are weighted differently, so "being in power" doesn't necessarily reflect in how far decisions will be made to your benefit.
Children, for instance, seem very powerless, but their interests will tend to be valued higher than those of adults.
If they chose all black females for the council I would have no issue with it. That's their choice. And I would hope that everyone they picked were the best candidates.
This just seems like a punching down for the sake of virtue signaling, because it's some how non-racist to hate on white people.
I'm not even entirely white but I've had people racist towards me simply because I'm lighter skin and I'm over it. Racism, no matter who it's directed towards or what "share" those people may or may not have, is still unwarranted and wrong.
So, reverse sexism and racism is it? No. It is reality.
Women on average who have the same qualifications make 80% less than men. Women of color make even less and have less opportunity. LGBTQ people, LGBTQ women, LGBTQ women of color even less.
If you've never had a supreme court rule on IF you have the same rights as others, you have privilage
It does not matter whether you asked for it or not or whether you squander it or not. It is the reality of the system as it is. This article is punching up.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this. People are only allowed to call out white people. The inverse is not allowed.
It seems so. Thus is the nature of the oppressed standing up against centuries of oppression. That doesn't make all white people evil, but it is what it is. Straight white men can do much more to recognize the centuries old imbalance of power, yield the floor to, allow the voices of the marginalized to be heard, to give more opportunities to those who have traditionally had less. That's reality, my firend. That's what true power looks like.
Marxist and collectivist hogwash.
Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody https://a.co/d/6axlcar
The New Science of Politics: An Introduction (Walgreen Foundation Lectures) https://a.co/d/gzy0Igy
The Crisis of Modernity (Volume 64) https://a.co/d/dSbzegJ
https://newdiscourses.com/2022/01/theology-marxism/
The underlying principles of leftism are irreconcilable with the underlying principles of bitcoin. Genuinely surprised this collectivist talk is on nostr.
Generalizations are bad. Stop putting humans into buckets.
It allows those people to be dehumanized because it sounds ok to blame or even hate the bucket.
As soon as you know and love someone in the bucket, you should realize the problem.
Women on average who have the same qualifications make 80% less than men?
Where did you pull that stat from?
It’s nonsense, but it gets pulled out by politicians and Hollywood all the time. The kicker is “same work and same qualifications.” The stat doesn’t account for any of it, it doesn’t even account for hours worked. If you simply count for the number of hours worked then half of the disparity instantly disappears. Men just work longer hours.
80% less is also by far the biggest pay gap stat I’ve ever heard. It implies a woman makes 20k doing a job a man would make 100k at.
Usually the go-to is that women make 78 cents compared to a dollar a man makes (I’m unfortunately familiar with the rhetoric).
nostr:npub1f6ugxyxkknket3kkdgu4k0fu74vmshawermkj8d06sz6jts9t4kslazcka I say this in as nice a way as possible, making arguments citing such wildly inaccurate numbers not only makes me question your judgement on this topic, but on all other topics as well.
Oh no she meant the other way. 80% OF what men make, not less. So it’s suggesting a women of the same skill, position, experience and hours would make $80 to the man’s $100.
It’s clearly not true, but if you explain all of the plethora of reasons why men and women don’t make exactly the same it’s far less useful politically.
Another fantastic and simple stat they leave out is hazard pay. Women almost invariably do not work dangerous jobs. 99% of workplace deaths are men. Yes, that is NINETY NINE.
Men who an uneducated, doing blue collar work, get paid good money because they literally go to work and might fucking die because of what they do. Obviously this is not accounted for, and the fact that we have no women working on the power lines doesn’t get much attention from screaming liberals.
And I realize I’m getting a little pointed with my remarks and I’ll apologize. I know everyone here just wants things to be better for everyone, and we all look for things that confirm what we expect to find.
I don’t mean to sound so aggressive.
All good guy, good correction, you’re probably right.
I would recommend Thomas Sowell’s work for anyone who would like to understand why these types of stats are often abused and can be highly misleading. https://youtu.be/WK4M9iJrgto
The women vs men salary statistic is nonsense if anyone just bothered to look at the hard data.
And there’s actually a super simple litmus test:
Are companies interested in making more money or not? If it were actually true that women of the exact same competence and skill level were getting paid 20% less than the men in their field for the exact same quality and amount of work, it would be the business opportunity OF A LIFETIME.
The typical margins for a business are tiny. Low single digits is the norm across the board. All any business would have to do is hire all women, could literally offer them all 5% or even 10% above market that they would get at any other company, and bam, that company just got 200-400% profit increase.
If such a disparity actually existed and it wasn’t because women choose different jobs, are interested in different things, or even work less hours (the stat that gets thrown around literally doesn’t even account for hours worked, it’s profound political bullshit, with respect), it would be gone in a matter of weeks, simply because it would be the greatest economic opportunity that exists in the economy today.
Sorry, but you’ve been misled by politicians who want power and they are just using our ignorance to get it.
Wow. No. I haven't I don't know what data you've been indoctrinated with, but look again.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/03/01/gender-pay-gap-facts/
it's also been illegal to discriminate based on race/sex/gender since I believe the '60s and I'm pretty sure laws were added to ensure this covered sexual orientation as well within this century. if it was so prevalent, ambulance chasing lawyers would have a field day.
Just read this and it literally doesn’t even contradict what I said.
It actually admits that most of the gap is women and men choosing different occupations, education, work experience, etc. then it goes into a long section that it pretends is “science” where it literally discusses *polls* among men and women who shared their *opinion* about why there is a pay difference. Which is almost comically silly. That’s like taking a poll of this thread about the issue. The data is literally available, we don’t have to ask peoples political opinions, which are almost universally just self serving, to find the answer. Which suggests to me they know, yes again, this has nothing to do with sexism. Its competence, choice, preference (which they also actually take note of, that many more women specifically say they do not want to be the boss or in leadership roles), then it talks about pressures in the home where the man feels like he needs to provide more and the women feel they need to do more with the family. Also, none of that is sexism or discrimination. It’s literally our biology tending us toward certain roles or preferences.
I’m actually surprised this was as honest as it was despite the lengthy attempt to equate a bunch of vapid political opinions as hard data for something easily measurable.
I agree. It's quite balanced. I am not an extremist. It's getting better with a more inclusive generation, but we're not there yet, especially with regards to marginalized communities. White men, white straight men, are still, after centuries, disproportionately in power.
Sociological "gender roles" run deep.
Gender roles are not sociological. They are literally the foundation of nature. Women literally carry and grow babies, and *must* as a consequence be biologically designed for the tendencies and behaviors that align with that. While men must be biologically aligned to the role of protector and provider. Nobody forced this and it wasn’t arbitrarily invented. Essentially everything in nature has a push and a pull, a positive and a negative, a nurturer and a fighter. That trade is one of the most foundational elements of life.
How on earth we have all so become so profoundly shallow as to weigh the value of everyone by how much money they made is incredible to me. To try to value my wife and myself against each other by how much would made last year is so fucking vapid and disrespectful to both of us it’s incredible.
Not to get worked up and no disrespect to you. But working a fucking job for some business is not what makes a human valuable.
You lost me at gender roles are not sociological, Guy. You literally did the audiobook narration for for Lyn Alden, for HER book.
What does that have to do with anything?
Not going to out anyone here. Gender is a social construct.
Loved you narration btw. Fr. Great job 💜
I'm being serious. Great job. I've read it once and listened to it thrice :)
Appreciate it. Fucking love the book and Lyn’s writing in general. Always been a fan and was honored to get to do it.
I agree. Great book, well written, and you fucking nailed it. And given the subject matter, it was not an easy task.
Feminine men or masculine women or anything in between does not counter the simple fact I stated above.
Agree to disagree. Maybe it's a matter of nuance that is hard to convey over text. Either way, thx for the solid convo, friend :)
What happened to you to disconnect you from nature? Was it some kind of trauma, or just run of the mill indoctrination?
Gender is not a social construct. It is a genetic detail. You either have XX or XY chromosomes, formed definitely at conception for the vast majority of nature. Gender roles are in part social construct. Perhaps that's what you meant?
Even if what you’re implying was true, (I have no idea and make no claims) that still wouldn’t change the fact that there is a real, fundamental separation of the human race into male and female genders.
Yes, there are aspects of ‘cultural gender’ which have certain roles, conventions, or physical presentations assigned to them, and we can subvert those if we so choose to.
I don’t know why people who support the right of people to present as they wish take it to the point of denying that there is something more fundamental than social interactions and conventions which differentiates men from women.
I think he meant biological sex, particularly in regards to reproduction.
Gender is a social construct, of course, and not binary.
nonsense, there is clear physical differences in the brain function, gender is imaginary bullshit
there is such thing as having a brain that is more like the opposite sex though, mine is 50% more like female, and i imagine yours is a bit boyish
Your first paragraph relates to biological sex (male/female).
Your second paragraph relates to the concept of gender (feminine/masculine).
It's the same split between biological relation (can be clearly defined and tested) and familial/racial relation (social construct that roughly overlaps with the scientific construct).
As you point out, my lived experiences, as someone who looks/appears female, but has a masculine brain (in some regards), are going to be very different from a different female, who looks more masculine and has a more feminine brain. And etc.
Biological sex is easily determined and has a real impact on your life experiences, but so does the way other people perceive you or how far away your own person is from the norm/mean for your sex.
Thank you for bringing common sense and a good mind back to that conversation!
no, biological sex also heavily influences the way the brain works
why is it that women especially get horny when they drink alcohol? because alcohol increases testosterone synthesis (it combines with cholesterols to make testosterone, not oestrogen)
women have more acute peripheral vision and less acute target vision, the statistics are that most often women driving cars crash into things in front of them because their attention is beside them, they are browsers, gardeners, not hunters, and while there is variance in this in every individual, it is very rarely more than 50% biased away from the average
women are good at accounting, when you have a little gang of crazy children around you have to always be counting them to make sure they are all still there... you have to make sure they all get fed and nobody misses out... the ways in which female brains are different suits the role as mistress of the house, the man works out in the field where his strengths benefit and make him more efficient
the concept of gender, the concept of wealth, the concept of anything is not the thing itself, of course, but the more disjoint your concept is from reality the more psychotic you are, and every kind of issue in society related to everything is all warped by marketing brainwashing shit
like, you know the real reason why they gave women the vote? so they could put them to work in the offices and debase the money even more and create all kinds of problems that benefit drug manufacturers and agricultural conglomerates, to create a constant state of distress in society caused by forcing and cajoling people into things that don't fit them and diminishing the overall productivity and happiness of society
i am not a misogynist, i'm just stating the facts... and the fact is that a huge percentage of women these days have totally screwed up hormones, that make them pick and chase bad mates, that put them into employment that doesn't leverage their benefits and overall reduces the quality of output and the overall morale of organisations as well, and that doesn't even get started with all the poisons in the food supply, the constant, non stop manipulation of people's beliefs, and all these other things that are being done to genocide us
>>no, biological sex also heavily influences the way the brain works<<
I never said otherwise. 🤷♀️
I don't understand what you meant here. Care to back up your statements?
all I can say is that Nostr is growing because I've been seeing the typical lefty crowd coming out in force.
Maybe it's just election season... who knows.
The physical jobs my wife does to support the family can be replaced with a relativly inexpensive employee, I could probably save money by running the household as a business and only allow the children to have what they absolutely need. However the value she brings as their mother cannot be measured.
Don't you mean male/female sex roles? Gender is a spectrum so anyone could claim to be in the minority just to suit their claim of hope everything is unfair.
You’re very wrong on this. This lie has been going on for longer than I’ve been alive.
I always find it interesting that the same people who hate capitalism and claim corporations are ruthless and greedy and will do anything to make a dollar, are often the same ones whining about the alleged "gender pay gap". Like you so eloquently explained, both of those can't be true.
I believe its more sinister than just politicians getting votes
I believe these charts say women make 8%~18% less than men. 80% is quite the claim. Guys wouldn’t be able to find work if that was the case.
Now do the ewes.
Theyv have 240% of the power. I like your balls.
