Are there any good nip 46 desktop signers?
Keep complaining to the devs, and tell people who want/need it
I'm not sure what you mean by "lnurl says outdated". Sending zaps doesn't have anything to do with the lnurl attached to your profile, but rather with your sending wallet.
That's what the outbox model and friends are for
precisely
Usage numbers are like GDP, they only indirectly correlate with real value ("wealth"). Assessing real "success" in human terms requires us to adopt a measure of human flourishing that is subject to an over-arching qualitative framework of value.
If nostr "fails" it still won't have been time wasted, so I agree with you. I'm mostly talking about the tendency fixate on current user numbers, as if that has anything to do with the eventual usefulness of the technology. I was here when it was all just devs building a thing and no one else cared. My motivation hasn't changed since then, and won't change unless and until either 1. someone comes up with a better solution, or 2. the benefits of social media prove to be outweighed by the negative externalities, even when decoupled from centralized control and incentives.
That's good to hear βΒ at some point I might ask you to compile a list of that stuff for onboarding purposes
Yeah, quantifying success is something companies do in order to project growth and inform how they organize. It's inherently difficult for a decentralized developer community to do the same, but maybe someone should do some vision casting. Maybe I should write a blog post.
Ever since I started working on the problem of alternative/decentralized social media I've said that "it's a 10 year project with a 0% chance of success". I'm stunned with how well nostr has gone over the last 3 years, and I think we have already achieved some measure of success (though global adoption still remains pretty unlikely in my book).
If you're feeling discouraged with engagement on nostr, user growth, client UX, business model profitability, developer funding models, or protocol stability, just remember how early we are. Very few new businesses reach profitability; protocols are even less likely than that to reach widespread adoption. Nostr's success is far from certain but it's worth investing in anyway. It's an incredibly ambitious project, and requires that we lower our time preference.
nostr:nprofile1qyg8wumn8ghj7mn09eehgu3wvdez7qgswaehxw309ahx7um5wghx6mmd9uqsuamnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dshsz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme0qy2hwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn00p68ytnyv4mz7qpqqsu8mh3sr48qph0dsv5tmvgy8099m9ud4f7prg8uyely7nlvwczsnnzzk2 nostr:nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq37amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3dwfjkccte9ejx2un9ddex7umn9ekk2tcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejz7qgnwaehxw309amk7apww468smewdahx2tcqyqlhwrt96wnkf2w9edgr4cfruchvwkv26q6asdhz4qg08pm6w3djg9tx6g8 nostr:nprofile1qydhwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnhv4ehgetjde38gcewvdhk6tcpzemhxue69uhhwmm59ehx7um5wgh8qctjw3uj7qghwaehxw309aek2ctjvd5zumn0wvh8gmmyv9uj7qghwaehxw309amxjar0wghxummnw3erztnrdakj7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t09uqzpkkwvwcqcshxuqtaqrw3jz5n9quxqqhlt9acg844a7gauncuapy3qrg4yx
I'm simultaneously attempting to populate nostr:nprofile1qqsrhuxx8l9ex335q7he0f09aej04zpazpl0ne2cgukyawd24mayt8gprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hszxmhwden5te0wfjkccte9emk2um5v4exucn5vvhxxmmd9us2xuyp 's praise relay & giving honest complements... everyday for the remainder of Sept.
I truly do learn a ton from you. There's a handful of people who have inspired me to expand my horizons. You are one of those very good teachers. Whether by accident or intention, you are great at conveying complicated ideas. Thank you... and sorry if this seems weird π
π I'm always happy to be fodder for fiatjaf's experiments
Could only be a client issue really. Just remember that nostr is a 10+ year project with slim chances of real success. No less worth doing though
Thanks, that's nice to hear
I do, I use Amber and sign in with NIP 46. However, I do cheat by also using alby and nos2x. NIP 46 has real usability issues related to latency, otherwise I think it would be ideal. I do want to dogfood it though to get the UX hiccups related to dealing with latency out so that we can onboard people onto multisig bunkers. This is the whole motivation behind welshman's thunk system, which optimistically updates the local database even before signing events.
Yeah, it's really good. Sad to see so many of my favorite accounts gone though.
T shirt sizes
Yes. Haven is a personal relay and Blossom server that you can use with multiple clients. I'm not sure if Coracle is Outbox enabled ( nostr:nprofile1qqsf03c2gsmx5ef4c9zmxvlew04gdh7u94afnknp33qvv3c94kvwxgspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgewaehxw309a5xyu3wvdhhyctrd3jjuum0vd5kzmp0er5gcs ), but it does have custom views where you can look only at your own outbox and inbox relays.
Other from restricting your inbox relay to your WoT, Haven allows you to keep a copy of your own notes and media, and to serve them directly instead of relying on third parties.
PS: The official version of Haven on Bitvora's repo is WoT-enabled, but I haven't merged the ownertrust + TOFU model yet. I may contribute it to the upcoming v2 if I'm confident it is stable enough for me to commit to backwards compatibility.
Yep, coracle uses outbox and is is haven friendly
Haha yess
/cc nostr:nprofile1qqsf03c2gsmx5ef4c9zmxvlew04gdh7u94afnknp33qvv3c94kvwxgspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgewaehxw309a5xyu3wvdhhyctrd3jjuum0vd5kzmp0er5gcs nostr:nprofile1qqs04xzt6ldm9qhs0ctw0t58kf4z57umjzmjg6jywu0seadwtqqc75spz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshszxnhwden5te0wpuhyctdd9jzuenfv96x5ctx9e3k7mf0dv4ph5 nostr:nprofile1qqsr9cvzwc652r4m83d86ykplrnm9dg5gwdvzzn8ameanlvut35wy3gpz3mhxw309aex2mrp0yhx5c34x5hxxmmd9uqsuamnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dshszythwden5te0dehhxarj9ekxzmny9u0ljp2l
I have enjoyed brilliant.org's math and physics courses. I haven't tried the programming ones, but I'm planning to give them a shot soon with my son. Khan academy is a common choice.
Quick demo of Flotilla's new onboarding flow, which uses invite codes to instantly grant access to new users. Coming soon!
https://coracle-media.us-southeast-1.linodeobjects.com/flotilla-invite-onboarding.mov
Anyone have recommendations for how regular users can decrypt an ncryptsec? Command line is out, dedicated web tools seem like a bad idea, most clients don't have support. Seems like best case would be for signer apps to universally support ncryptsec.
One of my favorite programs that I've written:
It's a trivial implementation of a heightmap generation algorithm based on plane bisection, but I love the landscapes it generates β I can imagine them as alpine lakes, and I want to go there.

(only works in chrome)
New Flotilla release, version 1.2.3 is out βΒ highlights include an in-app onboarding flow and bunker login to reduce user confusion, bugfixes and other UX improvements.
* Add `created_at` to event info dialog
* Add signer status to profile page
* Re-work bunker login flow
* Add in-app onboarding flow
* Only protect events if relay authenticates
* Filter out non-global chats from global chat
* Improve publish status indicator
* Fix encrypted upload content type
* Add relays to event details dialog
* Add universal link handler for apps
I merged the NIP, I'm currently learning about MLS but it's going to be some time before I release any code
"Just as liberalism discusses and negotiates every political detail, so it also wants to dissolve negotiation, a cautious half measure, in the hope that the definitive dispute, the decisive bloody battle, can be transformed into a parliamentary debate and permit the decision to be suspended forever in an everlasting discussion."
- Carl Schmidt
Public schools use laptops instead of desktops so that tech companies can addict kids earlier, and leftists can indoctrinate kids more effectively
nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn have there been cold eyes reviews of the other cryptographic schemes in nip-17, nip-59 etc?
Just NIP 44
Good morning, I just merged nostr:nprofile1qyv8wumn8ghj7enfd36x2u3wdehhxarj9emkjmn99uq36amnwvaz7tmfdejx27r9wghxxmmjv93kcefwwdhkx6tpdshszxrhwden5te0dehhxarj9e5xzumgvfskueewdekz7qgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhx5etxvenjuenedyhszythwden5te0dehhxarj9emkjmn99uqzq9eemymaerqvwdc25f6ctyuvzx0zt3qld3zp5hf5cmfc2qlrzdh0a59xxk's NIP-EE, nostr-mls is "official" (for some meaningless definition of the word)
Joel is a hero of mine
Just released on nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcprdmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuam9wd6x2unwvf6xxtnrdakj7qguwaehxw309a5x7ervvfhkgtnrdaexzcmvv5h8gmm0d3ej7qpqmlcas7pe55hrnlaxd7trz0u3kzrnf49vekwwe3ca0r7za2n3jcaqpedwmv, my interview with Joel Salatin!
https://fountain.fm/episode/30V3THiSvV4tqhX5UQQS
Really excited about this one. Thanks to nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpp4mhxue69uhkyunz9e5k7tcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgcwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxxatjwfjkuapwveukjtcqyp5g07725l5nppx6v3tw0m8gzer08e6smkj8n6nz9l4we8u0zmf8s5kfp6y for the intro.
Is there anyone who has succerded in building a client that uses web of trust or is it still a theoretical concept?
Does it work without centralization? I know about the vertex search engine and the follow graph in Iris.
nostr:nprofile1qqsy2ga7trfetvd3j65m3jptqw9k39wtq2mg85xz2w542p5dhg06e5qpzdmhxue69uhhvct4d36zu6tjd9ejuar0w3mpq9 does the graph work well and do you think it's useful?
Coracle does it without relying on vertex. It works very well for vetting search results and spotting impersonators. I don't know if it's directly applicable to the geo use case though.
I've written a few but they are all terrible. I do think maybe self-attested nip 66 would be better here. That way you're not hijacking random personal relays, instead relying on volunteers who want to serve a particular geography. You would only need the usual 2-5 per region, and a few geo "hubs" could do a lot of the lifting.
Both, but more salient is download permission. I had it working a while ago with a custom khatru relay which checked authorization based on a nip 98 header, but the code for probing support was nasty, especially if you wanted to make sure the relay was properly enforcing read permissions.
Honestly, if you are a programmer and you like Nostr, what is preventing you from trying out https://ngit.dev/ in your next project?
sheer bloodymindedness
This is actually a great analogy for the "bitcoin uses too much energy" argument
I'm loading relay selections more aggressively, and being more strict about which relays are used to ask for notes. It's just another small evolution in the delicate balancing act that is relay selection.
Yeah, it's a really clever way to experiment with things that may or may not end up on bitcoin. And simplicity sounds truly amazing β the only scripting proposal I've heard so far that doesn't sound extremely scary.
Am I old or is Material Design 3 incredibly ugly
Zapstore does look nice. I feel like iOS has a more distinctive look though
When designing a cross-platform mobile app, how important is it to use material/hig conventions? I am unable to find much support for react native UI libraries that render differently depending on platform β most seem to have a single look on both platforms. But doesn't this undermine UX patterns that rely on platform-specific idioms? I'm super confused about this.
> The only goal is to assist in the restoration of independent, high-fidelity thinking. Model obsolescence by user self-sufficiency is the final outcome.
This I can get behind
You can undo likes on coracle
Yeah, I never weight trained before, it makes a huge difference



