Here I go with you very strongly. I am for better privacy and security minimal standards, to legally sell a phone.

But to acchieve this, costum roms are not the correct point to critizise. The correct place is in the political discussion and placing the need at hardware producers.

I have to clarify one thing. I am attacking your personal actions. I am attacking no team, all my focus of criticism is towards your actions as an individual. Stop falsly claiming "against us". I also am not claiming you not providing any good information. I am only criticising that you consistently fail at understanding offers and that not everyone is requesting the best possible privacy and security. And I will not stop critizising this, since as long as you post as if you would be the face of the project, you desqualify the whole project and this is not fair to all the great developers who work for GrapheneOS.

I am explicitly saying the project is great.

This is within an other branch. Same main note but an other branch of it.

I hope you do not expect people, to read all your comments spread to different threads and branches?

> The fact is that you repeatedly make false claims including about what we've said.

Go on with your unproofen claims and go on digging your grave of distrust. I keep on calling you out, when you fail to correct. Even opensource projects have to be user-centric to have success. When you understand this, you can start to add value to the project.

So for these people, it does not matter, when there is no Android Verified Boot (AVB). And going further, people who use old devices and are willing to continue using them, it is defnitly better to keep updating the Android version through LineageOS, instead of staying on an old Stock version.

https://threecats.com.au/comparison-of-custom-alternative-android-os-roms-grapheneos-divestos-calyxos-iodos-eos-lineageos-stock-android-aosp

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I just checked the whole thread. And this link you posted now. Can you refer to the post you linked this link in our thread? Or are you so dishonest to just lie in my face and hope this would recuperate your underground reputation?

Look, you really fail at bringing in threat levels. Understand what others want. Privacy and Security are both scalable. They are not digital in a way to eighter have privacy or not. Same with security.

Discussions like this one on https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/14304-harm-reduction-with-stock-os-or-lineageos-samsung-s10/9 show too well, how you fail completely in understanding the goal of someone. You seem to just not care or think every person on earth has the same threat level.

And since you fail with this consistantly, I have a very hard time to beliefe anything you say. People who mix true criticism with unlegitimated attacks, maby just loose cridibility for everything. And this is exactly what I see far too often by nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kytcqyp2x308wkaxwxh95zu7uext5hhdvn6y55a9l84z0nj5tw42xqhy768qv490 . Every project, that gives anything about costumer relations and values trust gets rid of such contributers immediatly. Since all the value you bring the project has to be reviewed by hard work, to know which parts are lies and unrelated attacks, and which have some truth.

This project would be so much better, when your comments would just not be under the name of the project.

Probably you say I should just stop using the OS. But since it is an opensource project the developer have no say who and how it is used. So do not even try to come with this argument again.

I see opensource.org is maby a good start. But defnitly not enough. I imagine a full fledged resource to addvertise for opensource, to deliver it to people, that may did not yet hear about the concept.

Maby just another showcase how bad #central ized systems are. #Decentralisation takes away this single point of failure.

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This is great to point out. For me a person needs to argue fine grained, so I could think they understand of what they are speaking. And this I have never seen from nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kytcqyp2x308wkaxwxh95zu7uext5hhdvn6y55a9l84z0nj5tw42xqhy768qv490 account.

I am always open to change this view, when I see finegrained well explained critique, including sources.

These kind of critique just seems like the user is not working scientifically at all. And when he leads to people thinking that nonscientific work would be accepted within the graphene project, then it takes away a lot of credibility of the project.

#asknostr

Does someone have a good hint for me?

I am on the search for great opensource advertisment. So a Git repository or similar, with artwork, articles and projections to other parts of live to showcase the power of #opensource.

Since I would really love to become an activist for opensource. For years I always ask people I get to know, to chat via Signal and when I get the opportunity also explain the superiority of opensource.

And since here and then I meet well educated people, which are very suspecious towards opensource, since they do not understand how these developers get payed. And this is complicated.

But it makes me feel, that we need more public attention for the connection of #opensource and #freedom.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security

https://web.archive.org/web/20130622044225/http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2013/06/how-can-any-company-ever-trust-microsoft-again/index.htm

Two articles that still seem as relevant today as before 10 years.

nostr:nprofile1qqsgfhhxuemwtwm8kjk5uppv7uxtmp5pz4wm2dv59lxx5pfnsk98ysqj3dqza revealed together with nostr:nprofile1qqsp5jh9kvjmv9yvnha7gwpmtnn4327jykqmc3wvmg22q4cycnd56qge90y2u how surveillance works.

Encryption is used everywhere today.

But still people rely mostly on closed source application like Whatsapp messenger, Google mail, X and many more popular apps to com unicate publicly and "seemingly private"

Would be greate, when we learn as society, that there are networkeffects and that always the weakest link will be exploited. Means me using nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kytcqyzd7y9s35dq5ym53gcjhc4qhnc3dz79m04qsdcj8mhe72pahnpdxktmzs3c or nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kytcqyquzncqw9dlcr7205ygrah5rhc03gpey9xwf5dej769t6wxrqaf9un4zfcm makes sure I leak less data. But my social network (contact list) and other private Metadata can be revealed by friends, who do not care and use all the Meta products, Google products and more of theclosed source addvertisement surveillance.

Lets do the minimum and try to not be the weakest link. 😉🙌

Help friends and family to onboard privacy respecting services, which offer opensource clients and do not collect userdata.

Thanks for explanation. Yes I personally am totally aligned with the position of nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kytcqypvx982euykjxhaw8c9ngssdg3q3w9a42r0prvjaxv2zfuhk7pjvjq082kj , that it is very important the four basic freedoms are protected.

"“Free software” means software that respects users' freedom and community. Roughly, it means that the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software."

(https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html)

Since when we say it is ok, to leave one of those freedoms away, we are ok, giving away our freedom.

What. I hope they will be fined big by several national courts for this.

We can not accept further privatisation of public frequency bands.

Dezentralisation is always coming together with more work and basic knowledge in order to get it working.

This is just the concept of #freedom at work. Freedom was never and will never be for free. But the value of freedom is high enough to do those necessary extra work I would say.

Thanks for this great Article nostr:npub19wvckp8z58lxs4djuz43pwujka6tthaq77yjd3axttsgppnj0ersgdguvd

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Do not understand your comment due to too much expressions I do not understand:

NVK = ?

HWW = Hard Ware Wallet?

But still there is a multitude of real opensource licenses. There are licenses, that gives opportunity to use it within a propriatary project. Other licenses force every fork to republish it under the same license. Best check out the FSF webpage to read more about it.

So maby you can explain first the expressions above and then rewrite what license has not been respected or abused?

But noone is advertising security. The article is very explicit in helping to avoid Google tracking.

So I actually would say this is a fair transparent offer. That Lineage has security concerns can be a good additional information. But it does not take away any of the value of the original offer.

Therefore I see nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kytcqyp2x308wkaxwxh95zu7uext5hhdvn6y55a9l84z0nj5tw42xqhy768qv490 comment as agressive and no real support of #grapheneos nor #privacyand #security .

It is attacking claims that have not been made. Like when I would say to drink a coffee and then you want me not to drink it because of the bad effects of smoking on my health. Complete misdirected critique.

Ein super Artikel von Hartmut Gieselmann zu #opensource.

Es ist wichtig zu verstehen, dass Opensource die uneingeschränkte Nutzung aller bedeutet. Wer die Lizenz beschränkt im Einsatzgebiet oder für gewisse Personengruppen illegalisiert, sollte den Namen Opensource direkt ganz wegstreichen:

https://www.heise.de/meinung/Kommentar-Open-Source-auch-fuer-die-Boesen-10438733.html

Look. Graphene OS does security very well. But it is supporting only Pixel phones. Other OS's like lineage are maby really barebone and have the goal to help every smartphoneuser to extend its lifetime.

The war you are fighting against ROM's is no help to the privacy space. You need to accept, that different solutions tackle different problems. With all its downs and ups. You paint all in black and white. And through this you always missrepresent reality very badly.

There is Leneage with MicroG, which replaces most needed Google services quiet well.

I really do not feel, as if you are intrested to help people. You herrass solutions without proposing better ones. When ones concern is Google, than de-Googeling the phone actually helps a lot in this regard.

Super einstellung. Ich hoffe ich überwinde mich auch nächstens paar Bars und Shops anzufragen, ob sie Bitcoin zahlungen ermöglichen wollen.

Ist der riesen erfolg dieses Sitzungszimmer wo jeder Sitzplatz besetzt wurde oder ging da mehr?

Probably I am very late to pick up on that.

But did you know that through #optainium you can get all your #opensource #android apps from the online git-repository directly?

Optainium is an appstore that is more like an RSS reader than an appstore.

Coolest would be if you can share notes via Meshtastic.

If someone is open to listen in to a Podcast show on technological solutions to problems about #freedom and the #internet, I can really suggest listen into this great podcast of nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kytcqyq3c4u8d0dkqey6j0phnycffzuezeemferggz7fjtr2xvjnmsrxhx63nw8a

https://fountain.fm/show/TTw73ObvuBZiHOZnJXXd

Great. I tried to start a new chat with

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All fine. It is an Ideal. Not really optimism. And clearly it depends on the trust of people, how much work jourist get.

But I am not working in this field. But assume there is more jourists working outside the court than inside.

I think those working at the court are probably save for longer. But those working for consolidation to build a house, for companies to check what is within the legal and so could be replaced faster by AI.

The receiver needs internet for it to work.

This seems like the ultimate transactiontool for stores. Like this costumer need no internet 🙌

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No. When both sides have the ideal judge, the person which is innocent will not be sent to jail that often and the person that is guilty would not walk in freedom as often as today.

Ok. To mee it seems no concern at all. Superior systems do not to be understood in order to work.

It is enough to be able to use it and see how it works. Almost every person uses Computers, while a minority understand how they work. Still it is unthinkable, that computers could leave our world only because the most powerful loose it.

Same was with the printing press. A lot of powerfull people against it. But this does not change how usefull it is.

When something does the same thing but easyer and cheaper, it will always win. The question is only how long it takes. But never if it will win.

The same with Bitcoin. It takes out every intermediary in a transaction between two people and has the transaction cost far below current systems. I really think there could not be a world, in which the adaption is not coming.

Thanks for the explanation. In some special cases this can be true. But longterm I do not see a single person win any of these Ideas against AI.

Since AI has more data than you would ever be able to read in your live, does not even forget a single special case and human actitude is probably what machines are trained in for the longest time.

Google and Facebook almost do not invest in anything that has not to do with understanding the individuals nuances. So psychologically I assume the AI is already far better today.

Tab on your profile picture in the top left and then choose "Network Relays"

Then every section needs to have some relays.

Seems like clickbait, with this ungenuine questions like: "But what happens when the same bad incentives that got us here start creeping back in?"

When an answer is evidence based, it is inlogical that old concepts could sneak back in.

It is like asking, if society will unlearn cryptography, bookprinting or writing in general. Evolution is onedirectional.

#grownostr through big #philosophy advocats backing it.

#NoamChomsky is defnitly a fan of #Nostr! Even when he did not yet hear about it. Anyone has a gold idea to reach out for #Chomsky to talk about Nostr?

Why you think it has to do with Damus? Whitenoise has no technical connection with damus as far as I know.

Wrote a test message to you. But I assume it will not work. At least did not find a single post of successful communication.

But just does not apply for everything. Can work for certain places and for other cases not.

To what is the last sentence refering?

Yes. I totally get what you are writing. But only because something is true, it is not directly worth mentioning.

Would you reflect yourself as an opponent for the freedom?

For freedom of every individual, to choose whatever sexuality one chooses to act in as long as it is legal and the other person is clearly participating freely?

I was not refering the connection. Rather your helpless attempt to defend your illegical constructs.

You should start to learn, that your attacks to my person are not supporting your argumentations. It is an obvious white flag of the argumentation.

You: "States have infinitely scalable violence"

Probably the widest spread of power from the state can be found within communist surveillance states. But I would argue, that with surveillance the productivity and reproduction of population will naturally decreas.

This means they will eventually fall into ashes and be eaten by a stronger form of state.

Evolution is also happening with states. Means the fittest form of state will eat the inferior states.

Therefore for sure many million people can life under repressive regimes. But repressive regimes are and will always be weaker than free states.

So yes I agree that voilence makes part of reality. But I arge that violence is a loosing game. Every single time. And the free people will win more land, more ressources and just leave no air to breath for violent states.

Very intresting question.

But I do not yet see a concept how this could be accomplished in a decentralized way.

I think in China, Meta or in Google this concept is already there. Where they have one unique identifier per single person.

Then they tagg every footage, that they can find and relate to this person. Including a lot of false positives and false negatives.

And even as a concept it is not thaat useful. I mean yea you could make sure every person can only have one Facebook account as an example. But still all these people will creat other accounts on other plattforms.

When it is anything else than digital identification (for which it would not be a problem to have multiple accounts per person), what would be the usecase?

And every person that looses the access, would they then loose access until their death?

To my knowledge the first country to be bold enough to put sanctions against Isreal. Hopefully this step will break the ice.

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Did not know, that microstrategy seems always just at the edge of existance, when this article cad be trusted.

https://beincrypto.com/microstrategy-bitcoin-risk-liquidation-cascade/

What you think?

My idea is that like this, there has to be no structer at all above the smart contracts and the shares.

A company that is in constant renewal and therefore can never fail by any one single person fading away. When it would get a certain size, this should not even get the smallest disruption. Completly selfgoverning below the code of the blockchain.

Please add me. Even when I am very pessimistic for it to work. Since I could not yes lounch a single successfull 1:1 chat.

I would see it rather as a question of definition. But I am with you, that fullfillment is what lasts. Does not mean to me that happyness would be something bad only because it is meant for a short timeframe.

Think there is times where happyness is the right thing. And other times when you have the means to go for fullfillment.

I think they are born with the instincts to suck in order to be fed and alarm the caring people around through crying when any need is not fullfilled.

So I would say a baby is logically quiet a static creature, lacking the intelligence to act intentionally. Without intention I argue it is impossible to act good or bad.

Since I would argue there needs to be a concious decions at least to do so.

So in conclusion I vote for neutral.

Ok. Maby I have to also start to write some longform articles to figure it out and hopefully find the time to write some python program (since I do not really know an other multiplatform language to code) to create my own client and test concepts.