Look I’ll be honest. I’ve been a HUGE Nostr hater.

I honestly can’t fucking use this damn app and it makes me feel like an idiot. I have NO IDEA why you guys like it

I follow people that I never end up following, I write messages I can’t see, and the only advice I get is to do a bunch of random technical hoo-ha

But yesterdays Twitter hack was a BIG wake-up call. I got almost no help from centralized Twitter

So I’m going to commit to spending 30 minutes a day to try to figure Nostr out, okay? 🤝

Day 1. Let’s go ⚡️

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Welcome, we are glad to have you here, friend 💜

Any questions, just put them out there and the community will help 🫂

💜🔥 What are the biggest hurdles you’re experiencing?

Honestly the most annoying thing is the lag and constant loading between actions…

Idk I feel like everything is constantly loading

Most likely they are. Most apps keep their connections live to show you new content (or new reactions to the content you are looking at) immediately. But also, keep in mind everything is super new and not optimized AT ALL. We are still working on it.

Which client/app are you using? I’ve found just in my own trial and error that it can differ based on a few things: your internet connection, which client/app you’re using, and the relays you’re connected to.

With a half-charged phone, content especially on Damus (for me still the best client) loads forever. Maybe you use the Damus Desktop App?

the client matters. (i like damus)

make sure you have good relays.

paid ones are often best.

Deal

Step 1: set up your LNURL so people can zap you sats

How would I do that

create an alby or wallet of Satoshi account and save it to your profile

it will look like an email rizzo@getalby.com or something like that

I have Phoenix. Is that ok?

Phoenix is the best self-custodial lightning wallet. So kudos. But for zaps you need your lightning node to be online all the time. The easiest way is to use a custodial service. You can set up a self hosted lightning node but that is hard mode. Custodial is ez mode.

I like alby. It will also store your nsec (private nostr key) in the browser extension so you don't have to paste it into each nostr web client, which is very insecure.

Phoenix can’t receive zaps. It’s great for storing sats on Lightning but you’ll still want to have a wallet that provides a LNURL/Lightning Address.

#[5]​ is the easiest all-in-one option.

I prefer #[6]​ + #[7]​ because it offers more functionality and it can even be used with your own node if you run one.

See #[5]​ actionable recommendations on getting a LN address nostr:note135atusdrylptmfw5ys0r92rl56swsth8v5va8zl8ag20khzds09sj6nquz

Once you set up your LN address successfully, you should see a ⚡️ icon on the bottom right of all your notes. This means that you can be zapped by other nostriches for the content you share here.

Unlike twitter, there is no middleman to take ad money that your content generates by way of views.

Let’s see you get the #zap!

Also see this note:

nostr:note1kd42ypacnj5a7phxqh7mnn0hkh8q3uwk3qxlg3t3mmcd8yjwar9q7p0xrc

This is great, and if we have to show this to new users in order for them to understand zapping it probably means onboarding remains an uphill battle

I wrote this after I saw a lot of so-called “professional” bitcoiners coming here and sticking on-chain addresses or invoices in their zap field. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Yeah, it’s indicative of a rough onboarding. If the pros got it wrong, expectations for pre-coiners could be lower.

Maybe, but I’ve seen noobs come here and get it pretty quickly. It could just be a degree of curiosity and humility vs. the Dunning–Kruger effect.

🤔 great point

I use Alby. It’s also possible to connect it with your own node. Sadly they don’t have a mobile UI, but I connected it to Blue Wallet for that.

Wallet of Satoshi is the easiest imo. You can also use it only for receiving sats and some other wallet for storing & sending.

#[4]​ is the best mobile UI for #[5]​

I hear they are working on their own mobile app now as well.

I tried connecting Alby with Zeus and it was slow af. Had the worst #zapathon ever that day 😅

Maybe it was configured wrong? It’s super fast for me. I also use Alby with one-tap zaps on #[6]​ and it works great.

Isn’t one-tap-zaps available only in testflight for now? I have only regular Damus

Yeah, hope it gets rolled out to the muggles soon.

Yes, and support for pasting nostr wallet connect setup string is pending https://github.com/damus-io/damus/pull/1235 thanks to #[4]​

This enables on phone wallets, such as non custodial #[5]

There is no figuring it out, it's ineffecient af currently.

Well then I don’t feel as bad if it’s not just me 😂

It's just us, no trillion dollar company backing it up. We have to make due with what we have. I just hope devs will figure out ways to distribute the data faster and more efficient in the future.

Is there any kind of gossip in place between relays? Or do you just have to hope that relevant content will be posted to the relays you are subscribed to

💜

You won’t need more than a few minutes total to get onboard and have decent experience thanks to this guide: http://lnshort.it/nostr-welcome/

And then if you decide to fine tune your connections, follow this guide on #Nostr relays and you’ll be set: https://lnshort.it/nostr-relays

Step 1: Download Damus (iOS) or Amethyst (Android)

Step 2: Secure your key pair

Step 3: Setup profile with LN address

Step 4: Use it like Twitter without the nonsense.

Think of nostr like MySpace. You want a dope experience? You gotta put in a little elbow grease behind the scenes.

Just go to my page and copy my relays. If it has a $ symbol click through to the website, paste your npub and then pay the lightning invoice

Proof of work, mang. 💪

Thought this was a pasta for a moment 😅

Hey broham!

Enjoy! Let us know if you need help #damus

Do you have a flip phone ser?

Welcome 🫂

You sound a little frustrated 😅

There is a learning curve, but I think you’ll start to see the value over a short period of time.

You’re only using 3 relays, so you’re not getting the best experience yet. Let’s get you on some paid relays and make sure your global feed isn’t reading any spam.

Everyone here is willing to help!

Totally. I suggested some of my guides. Hope that helps.

I was told to cut back on my relays. I originally had like 15. What’s the right way?

There is no right way. Look at who you follow and add relays they have to your list so you can interact with them and vise versa when they post notes.

There’s no 1-size-fits-all solution. All depends on your device, bandwidth and your expectations. Generally 8-15 is what fits most. There are some relays which read info from multiple sources and filter it, thus taking the load off your device, such as nostr.wine and nostrich.land.

My guide elaborates on that: https://lnshort.it/nostr-relays

15 is a good number. Let me look at which ones you're using.

3 is probably a bit too little. I like to recommend somewhere around a dozen. I have too many and need to nuke a few. I'm sitting at 20. They keep creeping up on you. Though, I'm not experiencing any problems so I may just keep it that way. Once I start having issues, I'll nuke it back down to a dozen or so.

wss://n0p0.shroomslab.net is magic

It's a proxy relay that does 20-40 relays with 1 connection.

nice. nos.lol does that oo. and then there's the two blastr relays, either pablo's or mutiny's.

I didn't realize nos.lol was similar, that's badass

If there is anything I can help you with, just let me know.

Stay humble and stack sats

you got it, rizzo 🤙

all this stuff is going to get easier. Much easier. Just like using bitcoin back in the day was much harder.

We're just getting started.

Might keep track of your quotes ✍🏻 :)

Glad you’re switching over even if it’s a rough swap. Lots of people willing and able to help with any questions you have.

Welcome! Ask your questions and let us know what you need help with, maybe? 🐶🐾🫂💜

Maybe we should get him in a #nostrnest and walk him through it.

💯

Start following way more plebs, check out their notes. Pick what you like. And remember, this place isn't finished, using Nostr now is like moving into a house while it's under construction. There's a plumber in the kitchen, there's a carpenter in your roof, there's a plaster doing the drywall if your bedroom.

Don’t forget about those “dumb tinkockers”

That’s me 👆👆😂

You're right🫂 💯 I'm following you :)

If you wanna be ahead of the curve serrr you will need the hoo-haasss

SatoshiVibes.com/NostrFAQ

It gets better, just a little learning curve. What client are you using?

Good relays help, follow some folks, post some cool notes and your experience will improve a ton. The decentralized nature means it's tough until you have enough connections.

And if you want to see your own notes, follow yourself. Sounds odd, but it makes it easier to find your own shit.

You’ll get it. Delete Twitter. You need to end your relationship with it before Nostr will work.

⚡️Zapped ⚡️

💜 Followed 💜

🙏 ₿oosted 🙏

🤙 #plebchain 🤙

Not that hard, Peter 😂😂

Not that easy. Though this Damus app is pretty good. I don’t know what I was using before but it was bad

Stick with Damus then, that’s what I’m using.

Ask for help when needed 🤙

Damus is great! (I used it once for 60 seconds in Costa Rica 😆)

Make yourself zappable⚡😉

The more you learn the more you'll fall in love 🫂💜

Nostr has a slight learning curve, but it's possibilites are endless.

Welcome friend. 😄

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nostr:note197p5hadqttykgndh0v0fz3qmay6va4ya26wrsh7hpyeekv4xwkkqrw8kuz

There is nothing to figure out. You just don’t get a badge. That’s all. 😆

Got a lot of phenomenally good resources suggested already, can also add my own public bookmarks on my profile page.

I'll follow you as your journey will help me onboard others.

Oh and welcome aboard.

Hi! Can help if you need. Just have to ask for it. It’s a little tough at the beginning but all of us left Twitter for this.

Looks like people are taking the time to give you direct & helpful advice. Good luck— you are blessed because it appears you are amongst friends.

why do you hate #nostr ?

people who hate nostr, hate it for what it is, people who love nostr, love it for what it can be

Welcome back! Remember that nostr isn’t an app, it’s the protocol. It’s also getting better every day but it takes time to build great UX and devs need constant feedback on the stuff they build.

You'll be fine I promise. 🫂 It was weird for me at first as well, but when you start to get it, you won't go back you'll see.

The fact is It's still early and bugs are unavoidable.

but it's fast work in progress. The protocol is evolving rapidly.

https://uselessshit.co/resources/nostr/

There are many different apps to use. Take a look at https://www.nostrapps.com to get an idea. I'm sure you'll find one of them easy to use.

I'm using more-speech. You can download a copy at https://github.com/unclebob/more-speech/wiki/getting_started. There's also a set if videos that might help. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx461OFj6hkhe5ci8bwRk3w

Good luck. Nostr is still in its infancy and may require a bit more persitence and patience than some others; but nostr is worth the effort. It is the only social network that nobody owns, nor ever can own.

From: dud-595789<-mazin at 06/06/23 07:44:20 on wss://relay.nostriches.org

>---------------

>Look I’ll be honest. I’ve been a HUGE Nostr hater.

>

>I honestly can’t fucking use this damn app and it makes me feel like an idiot. I have NO IDEA why you guys like it

>

>I follow people that I never end up following, I write messages I can’t see, and the only advice I get is to do a bunch of random technical hoo-ha

>

>But yesterdays Twitter hack was a BIG wake-up call. I got almost no help from centralized Twitter

>

>So I’m going to commit to spending 30 minutes a day to try to figure Nostr out, okay? 🤝

>

>Day 1. Let’s go ⚡️

First thing to realize is that it's a protocol, like Bitcoin, so there isn't "the app", but rather many clients, some of which might be better or worse than what you're used to.

Try more clients. I write coracle.social, I invite you to give it a go.

Try it on laptop.

https://primal.net is amazing for viewing

I still use https://iris.to and https://snort.social to compose most of my notes.

You can easily try any client on desktop by setting up browser addon Nos2x that nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 did: https://github.com/fiatjaf/nos2x

On mobile you can also try https://plebstr.com that nostr:npub1atc6zwsr9nnyn0rq72g2qqznr3x4yhm20g50wsexjukygwrg9atqh0lssy done... so far my biggest problem there is lack of mention dropdown when composing messages.

It can be difficult at first, but well worth it in my opinion. 🙏💫💜

As a newcomer myself, I'm asking myself two questions:

1. is it vulnerable to DDos? Anyone could simply create a gigantic amount of pub keys that would post gigantic number of comments, masking any "genuine" message in a flood of bot-generated noise

2. is there any kind of gossip in place between relays? Or do you just have to hope that relevant content will be posted to the relays you are subscribed to

Welcome 🫂 You're going to make it, please be careful. #nostr is highly addictive.

Brother, what Nostr client are you using? It's gotten so, so much better over the last 6 months. If you're sticking to one client, you shouldn't have issues like you're describing. Now, hopping around the different clients, that can cause issues like you're mentioning. Stick to Damus, Amethyst, Snort, Primal, or Iris for now. Everything else is a bit experimental or not ready for prime time, just yet.

Then you'll want to make sure you're using good relays. You can look at my list of relays. I'll recommend all of them. (Minus my personal one, it won't work for you.) My relays have a good mix of paid relays and private relays.

Fuck Twitter. Nostr devs and users will help you no matter what. Just ask.

Just don't shill shitcoins here okay?

Welcome!

It does have a learning curve … but it’s very worth it.

Welcome. Many plebs here to help.

I've got a pretty good handle on bitcoin and Nostr in just 3 months, you can do it too. Lots of people to help you out here! 🫂💜

I’m sure I’m not the first person to say this but First step, set up lightning wallet for ⚡️⚡️⚡️🤙🫡

If you can set up your LNURL we’ll zap ya. 😎⚡️🙏

First figure out how to enable zaps

- Reduce the number of relays for better performance

- Follow yourself if you want to see your posts in your main feed.

Been following you for awhile. Good to see you’re going to try again.

This note deserves a lot of Zaps⚡️

It’s not that bad, just have to work on a low time preference for social media dopamine hits given some tech hiccups and absence of algos

nostr:npub144rdkyhwy59ppp6k4d8s7vq8kpxhu6vlgh4v82mfvpmjjcse6grsxzag2d have Richard hook you up with the B.TC domain.

I can help you as well if you need it.

Hell yeah. 👊🏻

Let's do it rizzo! Learning is the way.

Look at nostr through Gigi's eyes on primal.

I do agree. There should be ways to do more content filtering. Only thing I have found is primals trending. That's how I found for example this post. On the main page there is only some random shit and due to timezone differences between US and europe, mostly in chinese XD

Welcome! Wishing you an awesome journey. ⚡️⚡️

the tech is cool and powerful and a little abrasive. but it's a net good for speech and freedom, and is already interoperable with the internet of money ₿ at the user's discretion.

nostr is the way.

#plebchain

1. Add your Wallet of Satoshi lightning address (looks like an email address) to your nostr profile.

2. There is no step 2

THERE IS NO SECOND STEP!!

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furiousevent68@walletofsatoshi.com

bc1qxpcmt5thwkuzj2jctt9eaty86cpnqj563tslvu

เป็นไปได้มั้ยที่คุณจะทำให้ WoS เชื่อมกับ Amethyst ได้เช่นเดียวกับ Alby ทำ ฉันชอบใช้ WoS และจะใช้มันไปตลอด แต่ครั้งนี้ฉันจำเป็นต้องแบ่งเงินมาใส่ Alby เพื่อความสะดวกในการ Zaps

PoW 🤝

i watched your live in btc2023, you speak fast like a machine gun

Great! Welcome to #nostr 🫂

If you don't want to follow people, follow hashtags instead at either zapddit.com or agorasocial.com (by nostr:npub1k979np6dcpwh7mkfwk7wq3msezml48fh7wksp9hakakf8pwk3y5qhdz7te)

Do you know RSS? Nostr is basically a reimplementation of RSS.

Or maybe this will help. Think of damus as a web browser. Its not a platform. It just grabs content from other websites (relays)

So "how do I work this app" is kinda like "how do I work my web browser" not to say that its as easy as a web browser, but that on a technical level that's what's going on.

It also makes for fun comments from people on other platforms being like "I went on nostr and saw someone have this insane take" but that's like "I went on the internet and saw someone have this insane take" like okay, were you on 4chan or? Like which website? (On nostr you'd ask, "which relays?")

Use a performant paid relay like filter.nostr.wine and nostr.wine (not the same!) & well developed client like Amethyst on Android or Damus on iOS and the UX is great

Excellent advice.

Wen day 2?

Thanks for this message. I feel like you. I'm here since only 3 weeks. But I want to understand and I learn something new everyday day that I come on #Nostr. One day, we'll not be an idiot anymore 😁

Try PLEBSTR

🫂

In this link https://bevstr.com/Nostr/ you will find many Nostr resources to help you figure the shit out.

Start with one of the 5 minute guides at the top. All the other links contain all the info you need. The uselessshit link has a very exhaustive list. PV 🤙⚡️ #plebchain

Definitely a learning curve that I'm sure will be abstracted away as clients and the protocol improve. But definitely worth it.

There was a twitter hack yesterday ?!?

The op is a year old

Ha! You’ll do well here. Set up your lightning wallet

That’s alright dude we welcome you back with open arms anyway

Funfact: There is no nostr app.

Maybe just use another client and everything is good?