post / boost / zap / repost

You post a note. You boost it if it's good. You zap it if it deserves a zap. "Repost" will always be creating a new post with old content to me.

That's my take on terminology. Discuss.

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What is Boosting?

Isn't that Reposting?

I'd say no, because reposting something is posting something again (something that was posted before, either by yourself or by others).

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(i thought so too at first but "repost" has a long history and meaning)

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/repost

I could've linked to the previous post I copy-pasted, but I thought it wouldn't be appropriate.

Oh โ€ฆ ok, now Iโ€™m confused. ๐Ÿ˜‚

Me too ๐Ÿค

Makes sense. Boost is a good term.

wait wut

I couldโ€™ve sworn โ€œboostโ€ = โ€œbroadcastโ€

Amethyst uses "Boost" for reposts (not sure if any other client uses that)

But since there's also the sats-sharing boost now, it can be a bit confusing.

I canโ€™t hear bump n not automatically think of

I was just confused because I thought "boost" was a synonym for "repost"

I thought broadcast was for relaying the note to all of your relays.

This is what I thought. Doesnโ€™t it broadcast the note to relays the post was not posted on?

exactly thatโ€™s what I consider to be a โ€œboostโ€ of someoneโ€™s note

I couldโ€™ve sworn someone passed on this knowledge to me when I first arrived ๐Ÿคฃ

No dude, a broadcast just sends the note out to more relays, it doesnโ€™t โ€œboostโ€

The note to the top of everyoneโ€™s chronological feed. A โ€œrepostโ€(boost) not only broadcasts a note to your relays, it also changes the chronological time on the relays putting it at the top of everyoneโ€™s feed.

Broadcasting is used to get a note saved on more relays and therefore make it more searchable.

Renote/repost/boost is used to increase engagement.

sending it out to more relays is literally what โ€œboostโ€ means to me

โ€œBoosting the note to the top of everyoneโ€™s feedโ€ is not what I have in mind when I say โ€œboostโ€ what I have in mind when I say โ€œboostโ€ is giving the note a boost to be picked up by my relays, you could argue that renotes and broadcasts are both ways of โ€œboostingโ€ and Iโ€™d agree ๐Ÿซก

Yah but thatโ€™s not what everyone using the term means, they literally mean renote because thatโ€™s what their client calls renoting, like how Damus uses the term repost. Theyโ€™re โ€œboostingโ€ the post for more engagement.

Boost- help, encourage, lift from below, amplify.

Broadcasting doesnโ€™t really do any of those things.

how could you honestly say what everyone means when using the term with absolute certainty my fren have you surveyed every single nostrich that uses this term ? also Iโ€™d disagree โ€œbroadcastingโ€ definitely amplifies a note, is it not now in more relays than it was when posted by the author ? n how does that not mean that it reaches a wider audience that it wouldnโ€™t have otherwise ? (npubs who werenโ€™t connected to the authors relays)

Broadcast your first note, no more engagement will happen itโ€™s buried at the bottom of the timeline.

Repost your first note, now itโ€™s on new relays and at the top of everyoneโ€™s feed. The definition of boost means lift from below, amplify.

Literally an entire week has gone by with people calling for a boostathon and boostr with people reposting notes calling them boosts?

so lemme just tell you a personal experience and see if it makes any sense to you n maybe you can try it out sometime, a couple months back i used a client I donโ€™t use anymore it was the one made by rabble I think, there was a feature that allowed you to create a note to only 1 relay of your choosing, i tried it out n the note was on that 1 relay for maybe 1 minute until someone on that relay decided lemme fuck with Sleepyโ€™s test note n broadcast it, it wasnโ€™t on 1 relay anymore which wasnโ€™t visible to the rest of the network, now it was fully visible to most n engagement started flooding in as replies said test failed we can see the note, if thatโ€™s not amplifying idk what is. Either way Iโ€™m not technical enough to continue down this conversation ๐Ÿคฃ Iโ€™d love to hear from more technical people who know the process in which it works n allow them to figure out the correct terminology for it and Iโ€™ll happily listen to their points n change my mind if it makes sense to me.

I think Semisol is super technical and he loves these kinds of arguments

note - the original post

reply - A note reply to the original note, with content after the note id referenced. Can be threaded as it references all prior notes

quote-note - A note you create that reference's another note, and adds personal context before the note id. Starts a new note thread

boost - When you see someone else's note, and you create a new note that includes the note id, and no new content

renote - A self boost of your own note, without new content

broadcast - When you see someone else's note, and you send it to the relays you can write to, without creating a new note

Vic has spoken.

that form of boost Iโ€™ve never done myself or seen

so dis must be why I donโ€™t understand what you guys mean

cause the term boost I know of isnโ€™t anything new from a week ago or any of that lol this is something I heard multiple times on my first week here a year ago

Agree except 'renote' should be 'self-boost' or something that connects it to boosting rather than connecting it to noting.

Boost isnโ€™t in the NIPs vocabulary so use it in the way that makes the most sense to you!

So why donโ€™t we merge the two buttons into one?

that button usually means repost or quote. much confuse.

What is โ€boostโ€?

gae

i'll never use "boost" as a term

straight to jail

boosting is fiat influencer words, when you do paid ads on some piece of content

I'm a bumping maxi now

bumping is smth i can get behind

bump it up

I would like to discuss who is working on this decentralized pool to send some sats to devs

https://github.com/p2pool/p2pool

I forgot quoting. You can also quote a note. Which sounds weird because it rhymes.

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Post-note verb-noun ambiguity will be our Waterloo. Noted.

I thought boost=repost.

(i thought so too at first but "repost" has a long history and meaning)

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/repost

I should know this coming from Reddit.

It does seem that repost is misused to mean boost on Nostr though.

I think, boosting should be much less of a thing.

Currently, the default timeline in noStrudel shows only new posts, boosts and replies but maybe it should also or even instead show zapped posts? So instead of boosting good content people would have more of a reason to zap it. Sure, if we overdo this incentive, zaps will get abused to self-zap for visibility but I would argue that posts that got a lot of zaps from my follows are more relevant than those that got boosted.

Who do you think that?

Bumping something to the top again is incredibly useful and has always been (forums, etc).

Absolutely, bumping is incredibly useful and maybe even more in nostr than in Twitter where you can only boost once. My argument was simply about clients treating other things like boosts. Currently, zapping is possible and nice but no client treats it like a boost but they could. Like Twitter uses likes as a reason to feed you stuff, zapps should be a much better reason to feed stuff to users than likes.

Iโ€™ve tried to used โ€œrepostโ€ button as my open bookmarks collection for things I want to show others IRL someday.

I use โ€œlikeโ€ button when I want the poster to know someone out there read it and thought about it. Not worth much, I agree, but still an acknowledgment that I stopped to read it.

โ€œZapsโ€ are the next step in the evolution of engaging with digital content because itโ€™s a โ€œlikeโ€ plus an itty bit of cheddar letting the poster know Iโ€™m picking up what youโ€™re putting down.

Whatโ€™s the difference between boost and repost ? I know quote is reposting as my own note with a comment. But Iโ€™m not sure I get the difference between the first two.

My terminology would be :

You compose and send a note to the relays, that's how you note.

If you send an existing note to the relays, that's how you renote.

Noting, renoting, zapping and fetching others notes is how you Nostr.

Quoting is included in noting by this definition yet remains its own thing

As for boosting I would assume it's about the likes and the other reactions though many use it for renotes

I'll necc before I ever say "renote" out loud

I read it for the first time today from ODELL and found it quite funny. I doubt it sticks too though. ๐Ÿ˜„

who cares about the terminology, just fucking send the note and vibe

yes we all should stop talking anyway

and writing and reading too who needs words it's so stupid lmao frfr no cap

30 something year old man attempts to relate to the youth (corny)

Bot impersonating youth misinterprets mockery as tying to be relatable

he can mock me all he wants, i donโ€™t know who he is, and he doesnโ€™t know who i am. heโ€™s just some dude online.

Fr fr no cap.

What do you think about people reposting their own notes?

What comes to mind

That's a self-zap

To each there own. Clients will offer more and better filters for users who donโ€™t wanna see โ€œself boostedโ€โ€ฆ otherwise โ€ฆ itโ€™s currently the the best way to keep important notes in your audienceโ€™s โ€œcurrentโ€ timeline โ€ฆ

don't mind it all and I borderline think you're obliged to if it's a banger

๐Ÿคฃ notes transmitted via relays amirite

You post a note. You drive a car. You didn't "car" to work yesterday.

๐Ÿคฃ I understand but where does it say we have to abide by this on the nostr roadmap ? renote gives us a sense of individuality amongst all previous posting platforms.. example on twitter you post a tweet and call it a retweet (branding), or the more technical term โ€œrepostโ€ but does that mean itโ€™s the most widely used term ? Nah.. bc when the branding is good, it sticks ๐Ÿซก

wow very original and I don't hate it at all

rereplying this

repostnoteboosting this

You canโ€™t triple stamp a double stamp.

I'm lost ๐Ÿ˜ž I don't get it ๐Ÿค”

U killed me with this one ๐Ÿ’€

Can we Lie then ReLie?

to much truth for me ๐Ÿ˜ตโ€๐Ÿ’ซ

ReReTruth for ReTruthing a ReTruth?

ReeTruth, Technically

On Truth Social, the users are called ReTards.

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Truth ยฒ

NOH

Iโ€™m gonna re-note this ๐Ÿ˜‚

๐Ÿ‘†How many people know that is Robert Redford nodding?

Honestly now. I bet very low%.

I first learned this on knowyourmeme ๐Ÿคฃ I spend hours on there https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/jeremiah-johnson-nod-of-approval

A true pro knows his memes.

Like the mafia โ€œwe canโ€™t kill anyone we donโ€™t know firstโ€

Professionalism matters.

I honestly hope I get to teach memeology 101 or memecraft which ever you like more ๐Ÿคฃ at a uni one day ๐Ÿซก

We have to pass it on to the next generation.

big facts

Storytellersโ€ฆ..our greatest weapon. Truly.

Mr. Sleepy tell us your favorite meme?

Of all time ? Hard one but probably Dat Boi ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ brings back so many memories, n yours ?

that was interesting.

Maybe try this one? ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿป https://youtube.com/watch?v=b4V9SBT6Nmk&si=e_Y_6sWiXLf4ksRm

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My goodness this brings back so much nostalgia ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

Oh shit whaddup

I like dis one itโ€™s cut from a longer length Matt Furie classic ๐Ÿ”ฅ

I couldnโ€™t find it ๐Ÿ˜‚

Should do it at meet-ups and conferences ๐Ÿ˜

Have course material too

I love studying meme history on there. I'm fascinated by the Wojak mythology.

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Any noun can be verbed.

You need to ask Calle if a nut can be boosted

Iโ€™m pretty sure itโ€™s called, โ€œrecycleโ€ note.

Who is going to make boostcasting a feature? Btw, I don't know what that would be.

Note / Renote / โ‚ฟ Note / Renote & Note

You post a note. You re-note the note if it's good. You send a โ‚ฟ note if it deserves it. You renote and note to create a new note with the old note.

It's not that hard.

This largely resonates with me.

Repost below ๐Ÿ‘‡

This largely resonates with me.

Repost below ๐Ÿ‘‡

This largely resonates with me.

Repost below ๐Ÿ‘‡

Nost / Boost / Zap / ReNost

this is Nostr not Postr

#YESTR

thatโ€™s the way we do it? ๐Ÿ˜

boost = repost, reply, reaction, any type of action that triggers the post to appear on someone else's feed.

Duly noted.

I'm thinking lately that specific to nostr we have 'relay' we can use it to replace 'repost' or 'boost'... I'm relaying this note to you wdyt?

Relay > repost ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿ’œ

We can replace 'repost' or 'boost' with 'relay'... I'm relaying this note. It is nostr related and it is exactly what you are doing. What do you think?

nostr:nevent1qqsxtv6krelw040ejvw0l32kylxy8kk5989jhtf9hyts8nek7hmr64qpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqzyphydppzm7m554ecwq4gsgaek2qk32atse2l4t9ks57dpms4mmhfxqcyqqqqqqgmcx9h6

Love this. Iโ€™d relay it

Relay > repost

It all works on a truthless system!

"truthless" lol... yes, big tech has the monopoly on THE TROOOOF lol seriously where the fuck is this truth shit coming from anyway, it seems really fucking suspicious to me how i keep reading in dev documentation "source of troof" bull fuckin shit

come on, there is no source of truth, the truth is out there