not sure why i havenât done this before. Trying out a random macro and calorie tracking app.
I took the nutrient pdf from a restaurant i frequent and put in all the data. I can see exactly all of the macros and calories.
Then i can use chatgpt to suggest modifications.
No longer do i have to guess why iâm not losing weight or feeling tired. Just use data and tools.
If ChatGPTâs knowledge of nutrition is correct, which it isnât. Ex. Here it thinks saturated fat is bad and fiber is good, which is the exact opposite of reality. It appears to only know fiat food and fiat medicine.
Can you train it to remember things personal to you? Ex. I have a moderate intolerance to X, so I need to be below n grams per day.
Yes. I am carnivore. Chatgpt gives me a much different advice.
What app is this?
Its called lose it. No idea if itâs the best one. There are so many
Yeah I do the same with the app Yazio. The insights are really helpful.
I curated for me the perfect breakfast with soaked chia seeds, low fat Greek joghurt, fruit and for a slight sweet punch tigernut flower.
Works pretty well so far.
i'd look into some better advice than chatgpt for nutrient advice
I wouldnât trust ChatGPT with nutrition advice
who would you trust
Anyone that doesnât worry about cholesterol or saturated fat intake from animal sources.
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calorie counting is wrong. do keto. and eat organic and cleanest oils/fats.
talk to a better ai if you want good advice: https://pickabrain.ai
I tried that and havenât lost anything, tracking it is the only way for me to make progress since its easy for calories to sneak in otherwise
i would check if hypothyroid is the case. maybe supplement with fucus to heal that and iodine, magnesium and b vitamins for energy.
I doubt itâs that, itâs just easy for alcohol to wipe out progress. Thatâs why explicitly counting these things with an app makes it obvious how much you are blowing your budget with bad habits.
genuinely curious why you think this is âwrongâ when weight loss is literally just maintaining a calorie deficit. What exactly is wrong about explicitly tracking this to make sure you maintain the deficit?
there is a lot going on other than calories. when you do calorie counting "they" want you to avoid fats because they claim fats are higher calories. whereas the carbs are raising insulin and insulin causes the storage in your cells, making you fat!
i watch guys like eric berg to get nutrition advice. mindy pelz is good with fasting. (and imagine add those to an AI!).
watching all the weird ass comments to your simple statements is kinda freaking me out.
calorie deficit = fat store access.
I think its a cultural thing in america where it was maybe sold as a trend but the food is so bad that it didnât work for most people if they were solely tracking calories and nothing else. I dunno man
i was thinking about how much easier it would be to do now with apps and ai. and keep nutrient levels up.
The main problem is it just doesn't work. Very few people successfully starve themselves thin, and even fewer maintain healthy weight that way.
Those who do have a healthy weight rarely count calories.
The technical problem with calories-in calories-out, calorie restriction, calorie counting and exercise as weight loss strategies is that they reverse causality.
Instead of fixing your diet (less toxins) and quitting drugs in order to drive your appetite down and energy up, you try to reverse causality and use sheer willpower to starve or exercise yourself thin. So what happens? You get really hungry and really tired, and your body actually burns less calories (perhaps permanently).
When you see a really obese person, instead of seeing a lazy glutton (which they might be) you should see someone who is *starving*. Their body and brain are screaming at them to eat more and move less, because (thanks to diet and/or drugs) they can't access all that energy.
for me counting calories has made me realize how little room there is for unhealthy foods and alchohol to maintain a deficit, so it has helped me in that regard. If it pushes you to healthy eating via data then whats the problem?
Maybe people think iâm talking about âjust tracking calories â, most apps are not that dumb. They track macronutrients as well (protein, fats, carbs, sodium, vitamins).
Or maybe food is so bad in america that when people say calorie counting by itself is a scam, which would make more sense.
I don't track anything, but when I first started keto (carnivore now) I was tracking carbs.
To my mind, if you want to burn body fat the big idea to keep in mind is that your body basically burns either fat or carbs but not both at once (and drinking alcohol is also a carbohydrate).
This is the basic reason people find success with keto or carnivore. It's also the basic reason people find success on low-fat diets (they burn sugar during the day and body fat while fasting between dinner and breakfast).
I agree with all that.
If it's informational and this prompts you to cut out sugar, alcohol and seed oils (or whatever your personal boogeymen are) that's all to the good.
My criticism is about calorie counting to enable calorie restriction as a weight loss strategy, because it failed me and I believe it's failed most people who've tried.
Another point I should make is that weight loss is not health. For best health you want to weigh more in terms of bones, organs, muscles and even skin fat. You want to weigh less in terms of fat under your ribs, cancerous growths and heart blockages.
Counting calories is a scam, just as tracking sleep hours is a scam.
Parents with kids sleep less, and live longer than sleep time optimizers.
such a bizarre statement. I just see it as a tool to maintain a calorie deficit
Regarding the sleep:
Regarding the calories, family friend went all in on this, and did not see results he wanted. YMMV
To me this is like saying âtape measures are a scam when building a buildingâ
sure you could just wing the measurements but when things start falling over and you donât know whyâŚ
for me calorie counting is just a way to diagnose why iâm not losing weight that fast. A data driven approach is useful for a brain like mine. I like to see numbers, stats, health bars.
If i fast all day and eat 3000 calories in one meal then i still wonât lose weight.
Not to mention your maintenance calories changes with your weight⌠i donât see how you can just wing it and expect progress.
The point is that weight isn't the same as health, you can get stuck optimizing for a symptom that way. Body gains weight for good reasons too. It's the weigh in problem. If that's the limbo marker that's how low you gotta get.
right⌠so how is having no data on what your ingesting help diagnose problems ? seems like counting calories and macros explicitly helps you here
