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Fucking same. I just recently heard this term “white knighting” which is supposed to be negative? But it basically means standing up for a woman and I’m like….thats bad????
It's bad now.
That’s what I heard 😂
wtf?
Right?
Dude. I’m pissed the guys I date don’t even ask if I get home ok. Fuck all that shit.
You should text them you’re not ok when you get home so they learn 😂🫂
🤣 I just ghost them
GOOD
I can adopt MOAR cats and live happily ever after
SMH, fr. Bunch of Neanderthals.
I assume they don’t have mothers or sisters. Ghost. Move on.
i don't even waste my time to date because the girls are all on whatever The Current Thing trip is and half of them are vegan and the other half think it's good and i absolutely no fucking way am having a vegan cultist in my house as a wife lol. and wifing, hah, not a lot of women out there anymore who even want to get married.
i've just given up on it altogether. i don't have the money to pay for it anyway yet so what's the point?
hoeflation is real, ladies. from what i've observed, most nostr women are married. you have no idea how horrible it is out there.
We’ve all given up lol. But some of us do want marriage and a family. We aren’t all bad. lol @ “hoeflation” though 🤣
The pejorative aspect in its use is more akin to ‘simping’ —the white knighting done for the sole purpose of getting the attention of women for not necessarily chivalrous reasons.
Oooo so for chivalrous reasons is still good? Sorry, im literally brand new to the term
Nah, don't take the bait, girl. 😂 It's just the "Bros Before Hos" crowd. Also known as the "Girls are stupid, throw rocks at them" Club.
They say this, but there's no differentiation in practice. Been dealing with this "definition" for over a decade. These guys think the only thing other men care about is sex, so if they see a man be kind to, or protective of, an attractive women, they go full meltdown.
They call everything simping because all they think about is shagging.
Their projection is too damn high.
The present time is extremely confusing for me and then I’m kind of in this ecochamber so…I have no idea what’s going on 😂 luckily my husband knows what’s up. He simps for me and I simp for him and ain’t a damn thing wrong with that
not to mention the fact that half the women now get pissed off at you for opening doors and being helpful, there is a really really bad disorder between men and women these days.
it was already getting to be a problem in the 00s and i pretty much gave up on the whole game. i would have got married to the girl i was with in 2001 but her retarded junky bitch friend got in her ear and closed the door on it.
this is the other thing, underneath the outward behaviour is an insidious underlying cause: most women in their 20s and 30s since at least 20 years now have been basically permanently on the pill and this screws up their sense of smell for what is a suitable mate. even when you think you found one, maybe she even marries, and then she drops off the pill and she flips on you. i've heard stories of this from years back.
the pill is a social poison, it changes the behaviour of females into being hoes.
it's not just the pill either. psychotropic drugs like for manic depression, depression, stimulants for ADD, everything is disordered. the food also is screwing with people's minds. and the social media, i mean, good luck finding a girl who doesn't spend half the time in the date checking her phone.
none of these things are conducive to courting.
also nostr:npub1m4ny6hjqzepn4rxknuq94c2gpqzr29ufkkw7ttcxyak7v43n6vvsajc2jl the reason why so many men are converting to catholicism is largely because catholic women are not on the pill because it's not kosher for catholics to use contraception.
protestant women are not so strict on this and the medical/industrial complex has pulled them into it, in fact many protestant religions their founders were part of all the shit that has got us to this place (the church i was raised in certainly, co founder is none other than THE kelloggs.
That makes me sad. I was hoping they were converting to get closer to the Eucharist.
i'm sure most of it is that as well. there is no righteous leaders in the world anymore. but normie society is basically babylon at this point. so i think that cloistering away from babylon is probably the first reason, second is to find real women, third is for communion with God.
in the modern situation, the church is practically like a monastery was for people 200 years ago and earlier. a retreat.
i mean, just speaking from my perspective, i had a conversion in Rome back in late 2015, after someone randomly gave me Phillippians 4:6-7. i spent the next 2 months in constant communion, praying all day long as i journeyed northeast eventually landing back in Bulgaria. so i don't see the church as primarily a path to a relationship with God, i think that is driven by need and requires nothing but a few key instructions and practice. this is the main reason also why i am not so interested in catholic christianity, because one of its central doctrines is that you must find it through a priest. i find that kinda offensive.
it's too much for me even with the prospect of a proper women at the end of it, i'll stay here and pray in my cell and commune with His creation.
i guess i'm just not cut out for coping with babylon world, i can't be in that world. i fail i guess.
There is still time. Some things take time.
yeah, the forces of push back are not even starting to warm up yet, but it's building. i don't think anyone is going to think that much about it unless someone is pointing out that we do have options for routing around the damage. most of the time though it requires stepping out of people's comfort zones to start doing it and consequently they don't tend to do it until they are in the same boat as me - snapping out of the hypnotic trance and realising just how insidious the evil actually is, or how difficult it is to even get someone to listen to your anecdotes about how it impacts your own life and why you are raising the alarm.
isn't this pretty basic?
As opposed to Bill Gates Ugly BASIC 😂
Some men are... lacking, Will. Times are hard.
I don't extend any courtesy towards any woman who looks like she's adopted the ways of the modern liberal.
Signs include
- Goofy haircut
- Septum piercing
- Garishly coloured hair
- Doc Martin boots
- Face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle
- Low IQ
Any courtesy/chivaly shown to these women is always thrown in your face.
a man isn't chivalrous only for those he deems worthy.
a man is chivalrous because that's who he chooses to be in integrity—not how others decide for him.
Yeah, I don't get this mentality, at all. We're supposed to make an effort to be gracious and polite to the people we _don't_ like.
We all regularly fail at it, but the fact that it's hard is the reason we should do it. It's good for us, to do hard things.
It sucks this stuff stands out in society. This should be baseline. Men need to be raising better sons.
The point of chivalry is not to treat housewives like housewives. It's to treat hoes like housewives.
That is why Da Bros absolutely hate the idea. They think women should have to "earn" chivalrous behavior. That women, as a group, are not inherently worthy of it.
They miss the point, entirely, that women love chivalry, and value it, when we see it given *indescriminately*. And only then. Because that means it's innate to the man, and a reflection of his own attentiveness, sense of honor, and protective instincts. It's not just some party trick he pulls out to get laid.
I'm not looking, as much, as to whether a man who finds me attractive is kind to me. I'm watching whether he is also kind _to other women_.
All other women. And children. And the disabled. And the frail or isolated.
Also, remaining chivalrous, despite the most rabid feminists whining about it, is called Being A Man. You know what women who aren't rabid feminists don't like? Men who take their cues from rabid feminists.
chivalry isn't even really the thing, i'm always helpful to everyone, even men. when a guest arrived here yesterday morning i was out there first helping her get oriented. i kinda forced myself to stop it once the other guy here was here, because he speaks german and she was austrian. but i showed her everything and it was me who prepped the space for her, before i even met her, but she's not my type at all. because probably all of the guests who are going to come to this place are vegan hippy feminists. but i'm still nice to them.
i'm even nice to my vegan housemate even though he complains about the smell of my cooking while i say nothing about his cooking, i mean, my god, idk what is wrong with people. zero tolerance and consideration. i miss being by myself in my place because of this. i fucking can't stand hippies.
😂 That story was just all over the place.
You're sometimes extremely helpful and generous, it's true, but you're sort of volatile. Part of chivalry is keeping your cool.
Some of the guys on Nostr, who always strike me as particularly chivalrous, are probably MichaelJ, Vitor, and Derek.
That's probably why they've sort of stumbled their way into being Nostr clan leaders. 😂
Like... it's really low-key, but people can sense it, and then they automatically extend trust and cluster around you because you seem like a safe space.
And it's not just women. Everyone likes someone chivalrous. And chivalrous men are chivalrous to everyone. That's why it hasn't died out, or stopped being an attractive personality trait, but is simply more elusive. Driving up the "price".
It costs a man more, to be chivalrous, so being chivalrous means more. It carries more information about his true character.
yeah, nobody likes the Diogenes and the polemicists. even if they are kind and helpful. the cynicism is tiring, but cynics tend to be very tired.
nostr:nprofile1qqsr7acdvhf6we9fch94qwhpy0nza36e3tgrtkpku25ppuu80f69kfqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy0hwumn8ghj7mn0wd68yttjv4kxz7fwv3jhyettwfhhxuewd4jj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5hsleq7kw is a consumate gentleman and a leader of men.
He literally treats hoes like housewives. And housewives like housewives. And other men, like housewives. And little children like housewives. And rabid feminists like housewives. And angry, bitchy devs like housewives. And random Joe Flow on the street like housewives. Crazy person screaming around the subway? Yup, gets the relentless, unshakeable, housewife treatment.
Everyone gets the
Full Derek Housewife Gold Standard Treatment™
Cuz Derek treats all people the way Derek thinks people should all be treated. And if you don't like it, well, then have a GM and GFY, brother. Ain't nobody got time for that. There are other people waiting for their share of the Derek Treatment, so take a number and go back to the end of the line.
Next.
Amen. Amen. The end.
You give me a lot of credit but I'm nowhere near perfect. I try to be helpful and nice but I'm also an asshole sometimes and I do make mistakes.
And he's humble, too.
I enjoyed the book of satoshi
Now I await the book of mleku
if a man holds a door open for me and then let's it close on the group of old ladies coming right behind me, I for sure am docking points.
One thing that gets lost in the whole discussion is
Which women are the most adamant that men are *universally* chivalrous?
1) The women everyone tends to be kind to, automatically. She's sweet, or cute, or elegant, of wise. She's well-liked. She's attractive. She's generous and talented. People like her.
2) The women who are as close to chivalrous as a woman can get, herself. She is measuring the men around her with the same stick, and being pleasantly surprised when some man ends up taller.
*She* would hold open the door for the little old ladies.
*She* would worry that her friends got home safe.
*She* would try to help someone, if she thought they weren't getting a fair shake.
*She* would be standing at the bottom of the tree, fretting over how to get the cat down.
*She* would want to intervene, if she saw someone being physically intimidated or threatened.
*She* would run into the burning house and try to drag out the frantic toddler trapped on the third floor.
Woman 1 and woman 2 are the same woman.
And that woman likes men who remind them of themselves, but bigger, smarter, faster, calmer, and less likely to be hobbled by whatever is currently going on in her belly or with her hormones.
A man who can be _even more her_, but only all of the best parts of her. All the parts that she likes best.
Chivalry is about a heck of a lot more than how men treat women. It's about how men carry themselves with honor, which includes treating women (and other men, and children) with a degree of respect and magnanimity.
Failing to adhere to it is simply a sign of a lack of self respect. Those who respect themselves respect others, and value respectability.
Which isn't quite the same as worrying about what people think -- it's more behaving in a way that upstanding people wouldn't find to be a societal value add, and gracefully shrugging off the opinions of lesser men.
Good place to plug nostr:nprofile1qqspynsnux5d0tmn2a8xxajazx4fvz3gmue6f5a8avkhtk9dwda56kgpr9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezu6r90p5x27pwdahxc6twv5q3zamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wd36ju6m9cu5385 for a deeper dive on the matter.
I don't know if you missed the fact that this was also my argument.
The focus on women -- particularly, if you are, or want to be, romantically involved with them -- is because women (correctly) assume that the way you treat them is a reflection of your overall character.
If you have a strong incentive to treat her well, but you can't help but be callous or indifferent, it's safe to assume that your behavior would be the same, or worse, toward everyone else. You literally couldn't even pretend to not be an asshole, for one evening, even though it might have gotten you closer to her.
And the higher her MMV (to use the crude term), the more harshly she will judge your behavior toward other people. She's smart, discerning, and far-seeing. That's one of the reasons you wanted to date her. That's one of the reasons her MMV is so high.
She knows she won't always be at the top of her game. She knows the baby might scream all night. She knows her disabled brother might need a place to stay, at some point. She knows she might be infertile or become chronically ill. She knows married life is full of surprises, many unpleasant. She knows.
She knows. And she's watching you.
Make sure she gets home safe, or GTFO.
wow
this turned into a fantastic conversation...
and this just ties it all together perfectly. when i think about some of the biggest "icks" i've given my Wife, it wasn't necessarily the moments that i failed Her specifically, but the times i was careless, crude, or dismissive of others—the moments i step out of integrity—even in jest.
i think this is difficult for many young men to grasp. (maybe some older ones too lol)
Oh, I caught that. Just agreeing with you with verbosity :-).
Pretty Mencken-esque stuff here, and that's always gold.
Mencken? You mean...
"The allurement that women hold out to men is precisely the allurement that Cape Hatteras holds out to sailors: they are enormously dangerous and hence enormously fascinating."
i've never read any mencken before. so i have nothing relevant to say to that.
but...
"[Women] are enormously dangerous"
and it's literally because most of us think with our small brain
lol :3
(lovely picture, btw) ^.^