nostr:npub12z8jsett3k6rv9fa2guau5p540qr2xuvjzkr8e432mglafjt99sqkw9zmx is the reason damus exists. She is a friend from Vancouver and I made damus after seeing her getting deplatformed and from all other social media platforms and payment providers. Everyone should thank her.
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See a need, fill a need. Will is essentially Big Weld from Robots. Thank you nostr:npub12z8jsett3k6rv9fa2guau5p540qr2xuvjzkr8e432mglafjt99sqkw9zmx 🥹
Thank you Vixen!! All of you have made my life better in so many ways and I can’t thank you all enough.
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Wow!
nostr:npub12z8jsett3k6rv9fa2guau5p540qr2xuvjzkr8e432mglafjt99sqkw9zmx you're a trendsetter! But more than that it's like you paved the way to let people online be more free than ever🤷🏽
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Would you also pimp out your daughter on nostr?
The whole point is that with damus, there is no need for a third party profiting off of or controlling females 🤦♀️. It puts women back in control of their own bodies and gives them the choice.
interesting point 🤔
C'est plus l'ère de l'extimité même celles qui ne sont pas des métiers de la pornographe s'y mettent de plus en plus en commençant par certaines parties à exposer et infine vont finir par se mettre toutes nues un phénomène qui vient de la grosse machine de Mark Zuckerberg... J'ai dû faire des périodes d'observations sur outils puis ai regretté ce qu'il a fait d'instagram et Whatsapp quelque je préférais largement avant comme flikr avant qu'ils n'integrent Facebook l'horreur absolue
Une réflexion à mener ensemble avec du recul en toute objectivite puisque j'ai pu noter entre nos notes certaines qui semblent donner du baume au cœur à Onyx de par ces emojis mais ces notes n'ont guère un motif de solidarité pour elles. Sincèrement Will c'est pour Elle et d'autres jeunes femmes qui empruntent un chemin qui n'a rien à voire avec l'exercice de la pornographie. Merci
I dont think their bodies being exploited is a good definition of being in control.
She has the autonomy to decide what she does or does not post and gets all of the profits as she should. You can control what you choose to look at or not. Being told not to post nude photos is contradictory as it is technically an exploitive and controlling sentiment by definition. Everyone should have the right to choose here. You’re lucky you’ve never been in the financial position where you’ve had to understand. That being said, we are all allowed to maintain our own opinions, flawed or biased as they may be.
First part true.
NO! Being in a bad finaicial position does not justify immorality! Don't teach this!
I love what I do in the content creator world. Thanks tho 💜🫂
And that’s what makes you nostr:npub12z8jsett3k6rv9fa2guau5p540qr2xuvjzkr8e432mglafjt99sqkw9zmx, an example of this app working for the good. I’ve heard too many stories from women being actually exploited and having no choice, you are proof that other women in those unfortunate situations can take their power back and thrive.
er.com/embedded/download/2Cc.gifWhat if I posted some of my paintings from an art class that included nude models, is that immoral? What part of the female form is so immoral to you, the vagina you came out of or the breasts that gave you nutrition?
The female form is the opposite of immoral to me. You are disturbed obviously. You degrade women.
I am a woman lol
Ya. Your point?
Some prefer liberal ladies over deviant and corrupt fake moral values.
Envy is a sin.
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Deviant and false cored nonsense arguing with fake morale opinions though, kinda embarrassing.
Who the fuck believes having the right to judge what any person chooses to express, let alone an adult beautiful woman?
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Right/wrong is there without judgement.
Right or wrong itself is the judgement, no?
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The question “would you pimp out…” sure has a passive aggressive judgmental sensation to it, not to mention the entire thread.
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Reality is not judgement. Regardless, I judge not.
Who are we discussing here? The lady or the fake motherfucking opinions here?
Kinda embarrassing argument when we are wrong, and Kinda even worse when hold on to a false cored argument insinuating, but that’s nit my problem when questioning the truth of what the fuck this thread is about
I have makes it difficult not to be the judge of the world.
I have no idea, half the comments here are censored by amethyst. I guess too many reports.
Je ne pense pas c'est un échange, des interpellations humaines surtout en communauté un certain regard ... Les seuls mots subjectifs étaient relatifs aux côtés obtus de certaines réponses du goût l'ego se reflète
Il est pas dérangé il a juste posé une question et idem je renvoie cette question à la genre féminine et au 3eme genre neutre
Le chef d'œuvre Gustave Courbet... On y est
So you decide what is moral?
You must be out to lunch 🥪 😂
Would you?
There still good "thing" (sorry my limited english) coming from Canada 🙌
TIL 🤔
Words out. 👀 Hope we call can settle down now, and move forward. #nostr #plebchain #grownstr 💫💜🧡
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nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s The e-girlls fetish of male Nostr users is a topic that should be discussed.
You are lonely? I understand this; we all are sometimes. But then go out and date real-life women. Or go to a safe sex club, find a likeminded girl, boy, or x and the both of you fck your brains out, but don’t tell me buying women online is a rebellious , cool act.
Build an Onlyfans Nostr then, dear Devs. I would be okay with that. It’s just not my interpretation of freedom tech ...
There is a solid space for the unresolved Madonna-whore complex on Nostr. Paying women is ok. It provides the assurance and self-worth of not being written off or revealed as the typical Dev nerd? Are you kings now? The ability to be a sugar daddy publicly is now finally accepted because freedom of speech something something?
Online and offline behavior favor each other. The 24/7 availability of sex content and the permanent stimulation make especially male teens dull. Also, they expect a lot of strange, hurtful things from their girls and have unrealistic expectations about a woman’s anatomy. ( my niece, 18 and others told me, every women I know experienced this)
Egirls tend to be a group of yes men who will do anything it takes to keep you hooked —you just have to pay them & this is a power play against a woman that normalizes toxic male behavior by reinforcing it, bringing it back into the mainstream.
Pornography and e-girl craze are not a lifestyle. Or maybe for some who can afford it, it is.
True sexual emancipation is a distinct concept. Finding out what your partner wants is a very intimate process that takes time and effort between two people. Or three, four. Let’s not be prude.
I am grown up nostr:npub12z8jsett3k6rv9fa2guau5p540qr2xuvjzkr8e432mglafjt99sqkw9zmx as much as I have to , to be the protector of a family. I want my fun too, I live in Berlin and enjoy the freedom
here. No problem with going to the clubs. But this is the real world and I got the feeling a lot of you wouldn’t make it there.
I have a daughter, a niece, and female friends. Nostr is not a place I would not recommend to them because I have witnessed grooming, disgraceful behavior, and the normalization of teen sex here.
I know of women who choose to sell their body because they often have no other way to exist with their unprocessed traumas. I wish *this would be talked about openly and not just zapped away.
Maybe you'll do some soul searching and then tell us which “world” you want to code? ! Then we normies can decide whether we want to go along with it. Nothing but the protocol here is decentralized. I've learned that now. nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m nostr:npub1s8vtafxud6weq9az2hhtkj8c93syxluh2mtks0ggxmgezm5c00dsx37fvz nostr:npub1j2rqesvvtyktcyxakxhuxw54x3zm44frdr0h6prpgdmg7a9md39qmwcmzd
This is making a lot of assumptions about people who enjoy this content. do people go to stripclubs because they are lonely? Some people, but some people just enjoy the show. Why get worked up over something that people do for fun? Who cares. nostr is for everyone and anything.
The sex Buiz is made for men in the majority. I think the topic is complex and often contemptuous of women. You know that and with ‚who cares‘ you ignore it. I think you care for a lot of things and I am thankful for you taking the initiative and building a lot of cool stuff on Nostr. I do care too. That’s why I tried to talk about some related topics here,and thus a bit provocative. I think the decision of how Nostr, which is currently the only decentralized social media, will go into the future is a debate in which women and vulnerable people in particular should take part. Rabble was on point with his keynote . This is my opinion and with all due respect to your achievements, please think about why only a few not paid women are here and if you and others want to change that. Here for helping to change.
I'm not sure about this approach. This generation really enjoys this online world. Tha fact is that it is a sad thing regarding that the online soc media is the main (even exclusive) playground of this generaton. See the people n the suburban. Every person clicks and touches their mobile. Because they "enjoy" the content, the "show" as you wrote. Sadly my generation (the previous :-) ) is mainly responsible for this world. And to be frank I don't enjoy the strip clubs even these clubs are in the real world and more personal than the online one. And you are right, ther is not necessary to be alone to enjoy the strip show. "Who cares"? I think you care. Otherwise why would you develop it? In this way you make workpaces to that guys, like in Sacha Baron Cohen's "The Dictator", where Aledeen's friend works in the Apple. He cleans the Apple notebooks keyboards from sperm. - "nostr is for everyone and anything"
exactly. tiddies are great!
Agree. Just a correnction - as I see some Nostr member uses the Nostr to advertise her (mainly not "him") main profile on onlyfans (or something like this) webpage. But have no illusions. Most of the extremists uses these soc medea platforms to voicing their views because it is not personal. I wonder if you meet one or two of them personally what would happen (includuing political or other extremists, sex workers, devs, even "maeceneas" billionaires). Anyway in Nostr you can find more sex contents than on the other soc media, because of censorship (see the movie: "The Celaners" - as human censors work in the Philippines). And about the devs and maecenases - I just quote Orwell: "some animals are more equal than others". This is why I used to say there is no full decentralization forever. Human behavior needs the power over others (and the dumb "plebs" - yes, in Greek meaning) follows this "more equals", even a lot of them wants to be "exploited" (I mean e.g. the volunteer dumb teens). This generation doesn't know anything about privacy and later these persons will regret the photos, incriminated contents they post here or elsewhere. If they think this is "freedom" it is up to them. No, it is just anarchy. See George Kennen's book: "Around the Cragged Hill", especially the chapter about the governments. Sorry for this "phylosophical" long reply (but not just long, as Kennan's "Long Telegraph" or "Telegraph X").
You are definitely contradicting yourself: "nostr is for everyone for anything" vs. "nostr is just a stripclub in the cyberspace". So as a developer do you think "anything" = "just_stripclub" ? I think the nostr users do not want to use this soc media for "just stripclub" (there are bitcoin fans too... :-) ). And do not judge the Nostr despite of you are a dev. This doesn't mean that some people "are more equal than others". And don't degrade the Nostr when it hasn't even spread yet.
It was a joke
This one is a joke too and in both there is truth and cynicism and they are not really funny. There comes a responsibility with your work …and I respect your work but I don't understand why I have to see vaginas and porn in my global feed ...a feed that everybody who is onboarding to Nostr can see. Theres enough feedback from users that left Nostr about that. Devs been playing around with all sorts of Nostr applications for a while but ignore that this NSFW stuff annoys the majority of people when they just simply want to communicate with each other. Also if you search for #Art you find some artworks but also lots of AI porn someone who wants to see just Art definitely not expects to see. That’s details I wish someone would work on. Those things makes it hard to have a positive Nostr Experience and even harder to participate and interact here. You stand up for a monocausal cause of a minority who is now a majority here..and some people wonder why Nostr isn't being hyped properly. The sex industry is doing very well without Nostr. This content is everywhere! Why another clone ? Blurring and muting here ( and be exposed for it 🤦🏽♀️ on nostrudel ) is often not working cause of the relay mess making it hard to navigate. I really wish you and other Devs would a) go more into a Dialogue and ask diverse ppl outside the bubble what their need is and b) focus on humans and not on a industry that just wants your Monetas and keep you addicted. https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=57&v=RnlS5kSjTRw&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.de%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title
what is your solution? Censor them all?
Bingo. They hate censorship until they don’t. I’d rather sift through mountains of internet porn to see new content that is good than to be on the safest internet platform ever created and see the most luke warm, self righteous, virtue signaling takes that have ever been conjured.
Favor, can you please define “they,” for us?
The people in this post, particularly “ambitioushumanbeing” who raised the concern about NSFW content on Nostr.
So it wasn’t a broader “they.”
The fact of the matter is there’s “censorship” similar to what X and major social did in 2020, and there’s “filtering” which should be done on Nostr.
No one is saying “remove them,” or “deplatform them.”
What is being said is “I don’t, and most do not want to see Taco Tuesday, and oftentimes worse, everytime I scroll universal.”
This is the majority of people.
So yes, build options for those that don’t want to be exposed to smut every time they open Nostr.
You don’t need to see it. Don’t follow them or hashtags, and don’t go to universe. If you really want to follow hashtags then you can turn on the nsfw filter in damus.
Look.
You’re building Nostr. This is on you to meet the needs of its users, while also being true to your vision.
“Don’t look at it,” is just about the most selfish and prick level reply you could possibly muster.
It reeks of ego.
The reality is “filtering” is going to happen regardless, and the client that does this the best will have the most adoption.
As a builder, you can either build something that fits you vision the best, or you will be left behind.
The question is this:
Can you serve the needs of your users, while staying true to your vision?
If not, someone else will and it will be worse than you could have designed.
You vision will be lost, all because of your ego.
Yes im such a selfish prick which is why i added the nsfw filter and am adding an ai nsfw detector.
It is also practical advice, if you follow those instructions the chances of seeing this kind of content is basically 0. But please attack me for something out of my control (what people post)
These people are cancer nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s. I almost never see porn on this app because I have images blurred and 99% of the time I can discern whether or not it will be pornography.
Don’t let this vocal minority bully you. Your app is great. I know more NSFW filtering is coming but these guys aren’t constructive by any means. Type of people who get mad because what they CHOSE to look at had porn.
Talk to me instead oabout me … Hi, I am Nela. I met Will in Costa Rica. Who are you?
Your reply is cancer.
We’re not a vocal majority.
We’re a constructive majority looking for solutions and all you can provide is “anyone who thinks differently than I do is a cancer.”
If you have such great ideas for a Nostr client, why don't you make one? It can censor whatever you want then. Nostr requires no permission, you are free to start anytime. Maybe you will steal all of the Damus users, and become the number one Nostr client if the lack of censorship is what is holding it back 🤔
Such a defensive reply.
I never used the word censor nor did I ever suggest it.
Defensively replies like yours come from massive egos which cant stand that they might be wrong.
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lol.
The hilarity of an e-girl “liking” a “mute” post, when the entire point of the conversation is based on should e-Thots be muted for most, or not.
nostr:npub12z8jsett3k6rv9fa2guau5p540qr2xuvjzkr8e432mglafjt99sqkw9zmx good to know you support the muting of the e-thots!
Makes sense why you use your body for money considering critical thinking obviously isn’t a strong suit for you.
Ouch😬
Dear Ryan,
I am addressing presumptuous assumptions that I prefer censorship. So, let me be clear: censorship, no thank you. Finding an elegant solution together to make Nostr more accessible for everyone? Yes, please.
In response to the "do it yourseeelf" remarks, I can only say that I am not a developer, and I do not have the technical knowledge. I also do not have the financial means to pay a developer. This seems to be a general problem where this type of work is often underpaid.
I admit that I have not yet made a constructive suggestion.
"Nostra" comes from Latin and means "ours." And before I bid farewell to the next social media application, I wanted to gain attention and also participate without giving up.
My analysis of the status quo tells me that so far, little input has been sought from outside the Bitcoiner/Nostr bubble. I can and will do something about that.
So, if you want suggestions, here is my first one:
1. An open forum for a decentralized social media where 50/50 Nostrians and non-Nostrians can contribute ideas and needs as information for developers. Goals should be formulated.
I have proposed this idea for the next unconference and would love to build this forum.
Will has done great work. Damus and Nostr have the potential to be beneficial for *many.
TROP stupide voire ubuesque Ryan je me rappelle de vos notes.. Reverifiez vos notes, je me rappelle avoir interage avec vous lorsque vous étiez très mal ou peut-être vous étiez avec les nostriches vous ne saviez plus si vous deviez continuer dans votre profession ou pas... Nostr est sympa pas moment plus que boring si on ne s'est pas comment analyser une note
Will c'est comme ceux qui sont souffrance psychique ou mentale lorsque je lis certaines notes sur lesquelles les personnes décrivent leurs maux et leurs besoins et je vois d'autres leur répondre que nostr est là vous n''en avez pas besoin.. Cela m' interpellle puisque je m'occupe de ces types de personnes en situations de vulnérabilités.. Attention Nostr ne soigne pas
Avis complaisant
There’s porn on their cable channels too, but I don’t see them throwing out their TV’s.
À heures bien prises ou des canaux dédiés
Écoutez avec les interactions que de lire il me semble bien que Fiatjat ait noté qu'il ne veut voir de la pornographie infantile sur nostr de la manière qu'il est possible que tous les nostriches n'aient pas à être exposés à ses images ou films. De plus pour les femmes j'ai peu de gars montrer faire de l'extrémité sur nostr n'exposent pas leurs corps. Sur nostr elles vont trop loin certaines risquent de le regretter pour des Sats ou likes. En évoquant Snowden il a bien sûr l'une de ses notes là difficulté de dire qu'on est d'accord sur une note là controversé n'est pas acceptable sur nostr. Nous avons accepté nos différences idem que pour les travailleurs du sexe. Quand cela ne soit lorsqu'on accède à nostr ceux de cela vont sur un espace dédié.. Bientôt on verrait des filles sur lit faire des selfies sur leur lit..
I don’t think you are a selfish prick.
There’s your ego again.
I didn’t say -you- were one, I said your -reply- was one.
Obviously you lost the plot there, so I’d suggest removing your ego and rereading the rest of my post.
What???? nostr:npub15h788cf85h6fnmm6ku8c3cfts660m2dfrkmgc6qk8wr8ut5h70rsksdmjv you realise damus is open source right? You can suggest an improvement and get it funded/done. Will is the person who it seems ljke is in charge but is really just the waiter delivering the meal almost (ie there are chefs and dishwashers and kitchen hands, grocery suppliers etc all involved to make the meal). Admit that might not be the best analogy but it works.
What's important to realise is that the onus is on all of us to make a better system. And if we dont like the app then we can use another or make our own. This is a new paradigm. Its almost the exact opposite of centralised platforms where you are locked in.
I don’t think you read what I wrote
Jesus. Do you take everything exactly as written?
He’s building Damus, his app.
Which is also helping to build Nostr.
Not too much difference currently considering there are about 2k active people here.
'Do you tqke everything exactly as written?'
I'm not sure how else I can take it given the format is written.
I apologise anyway if I came across too abrupt. I just think its important people know they can make changes here and that we are all accountable.
We got to a bad place when we had content moderators decide what we can and can't see. This by its very nature has to end with abuse of power.
Damus isn't Will's app. Its ours as users of nostr. Very important to realise the difference which I suspect you do know the diff.
'Peace in'!!
¿?
If I would be a new user you’d tell me to click a, b and c to build a wall around me while using a decentralised protocol?
Why should I use social media in general if I am asked not to follow the universe but I like to discover new users /content ?
Also, I follow Ally but I get the Onyx Content too. The Onyx Content is, as she said, a part of her personality but also it’s for the most part her profession. You want me to unfollow Ally?
Why should I as a open minded person, do such things ?
Also I am not a granny.
Users that want other users content filtered but not their own.
Define “censor,” please.
„Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information. This may be done on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient". Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions and other controlling bodies.“ Just to make sure we both mean the same, cause I think that the term censorship is used in an inflationary way and is instrumentalised to monetise a need. “Freedom is always, and exclusively, freedom for the one who thinks differently. “-or like Ally pointed out , a double-edged sword. By definition, you would also have a share on censoring as a controlling body. But nobody thinks you’re like the government if you try to think ( if you really want to go there ) about a elegant solution for coexistence instead of riding the very exhausted horse of the total freedom utopia. I don't know what is technologically possible on Nostr to build this.. Enlighten me ... ? I understand that you want to invite an open society. I appreciate that more than you might think.
A lot of whining from people who probably don’t pay anything to use nostr. Amazing.
It‘s not your global feed.
As we say "wooden joke". Not funny.
Imo you wanna pretend it was a joke. But bullshit actually.
cry harder
More ego….
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It’s obvious you’re upset, lose the ego and you won’t be.
You guys are attacking him. Stop 🛑
Its all good i muted them
Will s'il vous plaît essayez de retrouver de Snowden sur laquelle le client de coracle holbodt désolé pour le nom et Roya avaient répondue. Vous verrez que tours ces points ne sont pas des reproches. Même Jack sur Twitter X nostr ou Bluesky il m'arrive de lui faire un renvoi qui est un autre regard.. Me concernant je suis en observation et analyse et cela n'empêche de faire des recadrage comme en PNL pour ne pas heurter puisque nos autres modes de com manquent dans la virtualité de cet espace
It’s not an attack. He’s angry, there’s no reason to be, and he needs to drop the ego.
You act like you’re an enlightened person so should understand that.
Non onyx restons dans l'objectivité s'il vous plaît
Oops didn’t mean to like*^
Sincèrement j'aurais imaginé ces types de feedback de votre part
I personally don't follow her (not for the reason you might think) but as long as she puts a content warning on her photos I won't block or report her either.
I'm writing this note to tell you a true story.
Internet sensorship and filtering began in my country decades ago, almost from when internet reached Iran.
The government started filtering our internet and blocking some websites and keywords with the excuse of +18 content, children's safty, NSFW, family values, religous reasons, blah blah blah.
Being a mostly religous nation then, almost all of the society accepted those excuses and went with it without question. No one dared to say other wise if they didn't agree. (At least I don't know of anyone who opposed it openly back then.)
Fast forward thirty years, our internet now is one of the most restricted in the world, with the lowest connectivity and speed, most banned and blocked websites and platform and always at the top of Netblocks list.
The moral lesson here is "do not comply" to forced restrains.
If you choose to not see something that's your choice. Don't force it on others and don't bend to generalizing rules.
Ty too
Thanks beautiful nostr:npub12z8jsett3k6rv9fa2guau5p540qr2xuvjzkr8e432mglafjt99sqkw9zmx
nostr:npub12z8jsett3k6rv9fa2guau5p540qr2xuvjzkr8e432mglafjt99sqkw9zmx is more of a freedom maximalist than 99% of the LARPs on nostr. Warms my cold degenerate heart to see her shine light on some of these hypocrites.
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You created a whole app to keep getting to see your friend naked?
Will you are the fucking ultimate gigachad
or the ultimate simp. 😂
