GM Nostr ☀️
How can we make Primal better?
Discussion
Having just returned to primal for using amethyst for a month, I do miss seeing the threads nested and fully visible.
Having to click through individual comments on comments can be tedious in large threads.
My two Sats.
Btw. Primal is sooo buttery smooth now. So good.
Maybe the possibility to make polls / bets incl zaps?
Gif button and just keep doing the amazing daily work that your team does, buddy ☕😉
Having Primal Stories, Close contact list, and getting a primal t-shirt from you haha
Oh and this is huge. A seamless experience to replying back to someone. Often times in a thread when someone replies back to me and there are multiple people in a thread we don’t know if the reply sometimes is directed towards me or the other person(s).
We would both reply back oh thank you and they are like oh I was talking to so and so not you.
I hope this makes sense but it definitely is a slight problem.
the nested thread/comments navigation is a bit rough. if you have a notes that has great comments - navigating is hard back and forth. I am sure it is not an easy challenge but something to think about.
great latest release
Nostr discussion UI would be so much better if Aaron Swartz who designed reddit's thread system was still alive. Sad and painful to think about
Can you do anything about these GitHub issues?
Allow setting zap splits on individual posts to share incoming zaps with collaborators. For instance, if I share a song I played or wrote with someone else it would be nice to be able to automatically split the zaps on that post with the other person I collaborated with.
it's awesome as is and now my daily on android, some power features below
-list support
-external signer support
-multi account (or the one above could help here)
-edit saved advanced searches
-multi picture upload
-i would personally move the zap button from the middle but that's me
Still don't have the My Tribe feed
Someone told me it could be done with advanced search but I don't see a way to do it
please fix the bug. in primal. when I am in the post tab. when I want to make a new post. then I tap on the gallery button. and try to add a new picture to my post. it begins uploading. and when the progress bar is finished. my picture disappears. and I need to do the whole process over again. until it stops disappearing and I can upload it to primal. #Bug #Primal
More in-app language options and note translation. It's already a good start.
Integrate chats/streams
Add emoji reactions 💜
I’m really enjoying Primal 2.0 so far. I hadn’t used it in a while. The saved search feature is really good. I like the clean user experience. Using this a daily driver for 2 days now.
Here are a few things:
-ability to toggle which relays i’m using while viewing a feed (see Damus global view)
-ability to edit saved searches/custom feeds
-list support
-when someone zaps privately a note it should show up under that note
-better threads view (see Damus threads as an example)
-ability to search the follow and follower list for easy management
-nostr.build integration (I don’t see it in the settings)
-I would bring the DM button on the main bar menu instead if hidden on the side. Maybe move the wallet button to the side and make it a bit smaller
Allow zapping with any wallet!
Look up the now defunct NostrGram. One was a feature to only stream photos. Another to only stream music links. Many other unique features
Power search should give you this. Also under media tab you can cruise through just images and videos.
one more!
zap forwarding and zap splits 😁
GM 💜🫡
nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr how about a muted words list?
a nice addition to https://primal.net/settings/filters
I just want to mute the word “nostr” on nostr
Better feed curation features with Premium, possibly?
Happy Sunday
External browser option to open links!
Perhaps it already exists and I’m missing it, but a way to invite people to sign up?
Follow lists. Please make a user creatable feed that we put whoever we want on. Either a separate tab for lists or they can show up in the feed list. 👍🏻🙂
GM SIR 💜🫡
Push Notifications.
A proper monetization strategy so you don't go bust. (Subs and Zaps won't work)
No monetization strategy will beat a p2p version of nostr, that's what we need
P2P will never sustain.
Ever.
In any universe.
What do you actually mean? Are you not aware Bitcoin and BitTorrent are P2P or are you saying one thing when you mean another?
Well what do you mean by P2P. Sounds like you mean zaps. Zaps won't sustain a platform.
I'm thinking of basically making it so every user device is a relay as long as they're online. But it would need changes to the nostr protocol for that to work
This is good at a decentralization level and structure. I agree and thought the same. Don't think it needs any changes. We just need a simple to install personal relay authenticated by nsec or npub.
But I'm talking monetization. For all network stakeholders:
-Clients
-Relays
-Creators
-Followers
You might be right, maybe it would work if a client like amethyst just added a built-in relay.
I wasn't thinking about monetization for creators. I've been thinking it will end up with individual sponsorship deals instead of in-app ads, but maybe nostr needs a NIP for in-app ads where every contributor gets paid for their posts, not just the ones with a lot of followers.
Yup that's one way for sure. Build the personal relay right into the client. Then disseminate the content out to aggregators on the network. 100%.
On monetization.
On social networks, people want REACH. That's all an ad is.
It's a payment for REACH. To boost your content out into other people's feeds. That could be an advertiser. Could be a regular creator. Could even be a new user trying to turbocharge their initial growth.
But these are the people who fund a network. We just need to structure a economic model where the other 3 (or even 4) stakeholders get a piece of this pie so they can survive and profit.
No relay, client, or creator is surviving off monthly or voluntary direct payments. That's my only point.
I wonder how much revenue could be generated this way:
Offer users, premium or otherwise, an option to permanently take an 8-or-more-characters Primal NIP-05 name, in exchange for opting in to an "inactive wallet share" where they keep their Primal wallet above a small minimum balance, and a small percentage of their wallet funds can be taken if both their npub and the wallet itself appear inactive for a period of 5-10 years.
Allow the 8-character minimum to be shortened with an increasingly large one-time fee the shorter the name is; discount this fee for premium subscribers.
Always warn opted-in users before they go below the minimum balance Never take the name away as long as the user has never ignored that warning - no increasing the minimum because they went below it, no taking the name away because the shared portion put them below it.
Accidentally hit "reply" while trying to edit - meant to say "no increasing the minimum so that they go below it."
when used on horizontal mode on a tablet primal flashes like crazy
Now that search is better, a couple added handles would be nice. For example, “Springfield or SGF and Missouri or MO | SGF” would find a note with any of “SGF MO”, “Springfield MO”, “Sgf Missouri”, or only “SGF”, but not only “Missouri”. This is from me trying to build a feed that would pick up anything from this specific town for geographic connection.
first use the login process of pasting the nsec could be seen as potentially risky
better search
better search 🙋♂️
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Can't download nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg on my nostr:npub1a00wj229auzjswlq4s77y4u8eqdx5k9ppatgl8rtv8va65f6mwksum9q3h DC1, why not? am I missing something?
I got you.
Easier for people to get a key pair
I had dozens of people try Primal to get started
Most switched to Nostrudel
Some gave up on nostr
PS the new update is already much better and the READS will be massive
Great work 🫡
Replying a second time to add -
As soon as feasible, backup features must be activated for all users. We cannot simply erase those without money from history
Send images in privates chat
Push notifications on iOS like Damus does…
Support splits 🖖🏼
It’s such a unique of moving sats on nostr and, because of the wallet integration, primal is very well positioned to improve on this ux!
Timeline that remembers where you were and new posts loading on top so you scroll up from where you were to keep reading new stuff chronologically instead of always starting from the new one on top until you arrive around the post you read last time you used the app… if you remember it… this will be very useful!
primal wallet access on the web version
Quit charging for stuff
I'd like to be able to see Reads that other users share on my latest feed.
Would it be possible to build a bridge to X or Bluesky inside Primal itself? Where we would log in using our credentials, and we would be able to see the posts of the people we follow, and push replies and posts to the other services automatically.
More cowbell
the 'all reads' section only shows like 10 reads.. I'd like to be able to browse through more
Option to when launching the app, start where last read and scroll upwards, autoloading any new stuff while you were reading the lower stuff. Eliminates the pull down to refresh too.
Trying to Untoggle wallet in iOS version of the app, following a guide from alby hub, can’t find that option, is that option Android only?
Add an AppStore like https://nostrapps.com that makes it easy for folks to publish their nostr apps!
Jezz is Sunday, take a break 😁
My follow list is stuck at 0 on Primal only for a long time
don't make me paste private keys. amber app on android is great
show more of non square images. I saw a meme yesterday that made no sense until I clicked it and realized there's words above the pic that we're hidden
agreed. we try to get them right but we need to try harder.
Translations
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Sidebar with more interesting options.
Trending people on nostrband is better than current options.
Or improve 'trending' so it's not just the same old same old read receipted large follower accounts. 🤔
Yes, we should enable plugging any feed into the sidebar. We’ll also publish more interesting feeds. 🤝
Multi media selection on upload
- Improved search (incl. user search)
- Improved performance
- Return feed from all relays
- Resolve disappearing images after upload
- Notifications
- Nostr Marketplace
Idk do you still have the option of external lightning adress for the people that want to use their wallets in primal. Tbh, don’t want to “register” anything on nostr, like we have to on legacy social media.
When I switch between feeds by swiping, there are one or two that don't load as fast as the others.
• Automation of posting
• Scheduling tool - which allows tagging
• Media service such as Nostr.build
Stop requiring users to trust you with their nsec. Replace KYC Strike backed built-in wallet with either a cashu mint or fedi. Make it easy for users to use any wallet they want with NWC should they choose to opt out of built-in wallet. Use tools like Nostr.build rather than your own CDN solution. Generally just be a better more inclusive Nostr client and stop giving off vibes that you're using the protocol to build your own walled garden.
Can you elaborate on the trustless nsec method for clients? Is that the Nostr.build thing? I thought someone built something. Been sparse on here.
Trying to get a lay of the land. Probably going to start building because existing client devs are fucking clueless.
Waiting to see what Will puts out with NoteDeck tho.
I'm referring to solutions like Amber (android only) or Alby that make it easy to safekeep your nsec and then set permissions on an app by app basis. In the future though I'd love a hardware wallet solution.
Are these signers built for the user, or the client?
As in, are they meant so the user can keep, store, remember, and retrieve their NSEC safely?
Or are they meant for clients to safeguard/encrypt the NSEC's of their users, to prevent them getting in the wrong hands?
Easy edit or delete for Notes? I don’t see a way to do this.
Edit and delete is complicated on Nostr due to the nature of the protocol
Thanks. Making it easier would certainly make it more user friendly.
There are tools to delete things but editing is unlikely. Every action passes through multiple relays so in order to make a change, it requires much more work than it would on Twitter.
GM nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr
A GIF search tool.
I use nostr:npub1hee433872q2gen90cqh2ypwcq9z7y5ugn23etrd2l2rrwpruss8qwmrsv6's nifty https://gifbuddy.lol/ but would be great to have one built in!
This is already in the works, but when you add signer support, please add support for both NIP-07 and NIP-46 signers. That way both web and app users can use their signer of choice.
Post an image from Files. Not all images are in Photos.
Activating bell for notifications whenever a specific user posts, and a timeline just for the active notification users.
Activating bell for notifications whenever a specific user posts, and a timeline just for the active notification users.
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Can we see our own posts in the feed?
Gyroscopic scrolling (tilt phone to scroll). It’s a bit VR like; it could be terrible.
How about a Bitcoin price page or icon. 100k is so hot right now.jpeg
Amber login on Android. Bunker login on dekstop.
Not taking away the most zapped of the last 4 hours etc. section!
can you give us control of what icons appear on the bottom of the mobile screen? I liked having Messages down there.
this may be user error. but when designing a feed using hashtags, I can't seem to use multiple hashtags on a single feed.
how about stopping CSAM and AI CSAM on Primal?
Primal never does anything
did you mean spam?
better hashtag page with stats n charts etc ✌️
Request Deletion
Great question to ask. 👏 This is the way. 🚀
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Auto-forwarding from tweets on X of people I follow.
Link previews to external sites need to work consistently. If the preview won't display, I'd rather not post it at all.
Multi Accounts ?
When there is a thread, I would like to have answers open by default, instead to have to click on them one by one
Improve UX for threads please, click on each answer is very confusing
The Downloads notifications feel spammy. I know the iOS and Android clients exist, and could do without the notification each time I refresh the desktop app.
Every time you open it you get free sats 😅
Wallet integration with the web app.
I've just asked this:
https://primal.net/e/note1pdgxxu2qgypwuz2g9ha6xepr6znsh7zpqccckst98l9q260s5hfq539cv2
I used to use alby, but I like the convenience of using the primal wallet in the iOS app.
Add story that disappear after 24 hours and a reels button.
Okay, so, I'm totally digging this thing—a slide-show or whatever, a bunch of pictures all lined up. Right? Like, a visual feast. But I wanna click on one, and BAM, it takes me to the actual post. You know? Like, I'm a detective, trying to remember how to find the juicy details of these pictures. I swear, I saw something similar on Primal, but... where'd I go?! My memory is worse than a goldfish. Anyhoo, any ideas?
Primal is looking so good. What a great job. Truly! Thank you so much and congratulations to all involved :)
I really love the Explore with the feeds functionality.
I really like Coracle.social feed customization. It would be awesome to do more stuff like that. Or make it extendable programmatically.
I know there's a lot of work in that direction.
It's just phenomenal work. Really love the direction Nostr is taking. It's incredible!!
And Communities!! If Primal adds good support to Communities then that's it!!
By asking this question forever., Laura.
Couple minor issues:
- Zapping yourself (apparently a feature not a bug?)
- Don’t allow multiple zaps by default
- see more… 🤪
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Add an integrated wallet on desktop for instant zaps! ⚡ ⚡ ⚡
Let me hide the big wallet button on mobile. I use Alby Hub
Short term Primal 2.0 integration of the NIP37 integration to allow typo edits on Primal, likely in a 3 to 5 min window after post, just to keep us from looking stupid when we typo something important to the note, but to not let edits compromise content that is already connected to seasoned engagement by other users.
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Detecting "nostr:" formatted links & actually linking them natively in a client-agnostic embed/card manner would be a phenomenal addition. 💁♂️
The current UX re:that is janky AF & seems to force platform-specific ”https://”-style hyperlinks to reference a post; this is a bad UX IMO. 🙏