in 2001, the bush admin used the fear of terrorism to trample over the rights of all americans

in 2009, the obama admin used the fear of terrorism to trample over the rights of all americans

in 2020, the trump admin used the fear of covid to trample over the rights of all americans

in 2021, the biden admin used the fear of covid to trample over the rights of all americans

today, the trump admin is using the fear of illegals and commies to trample over the rights of all americans

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What happens in 2030 😮

spoiler alert

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2030 will be different… if you elect me 😳

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A bloodbath hopefully

And the people still believe in them.

And talk about them

Like odell is doing here….

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No lies detected

The popular mandate -voted by the people- was for mass deportations. Presidency, house, senate and judiciary. There are no rights being trampled, this is what the majority wants.

three wolves and sheep voting who's for dinner

well looks like "the popular mandate" is changing its mind rapidly:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/23/us/politics/poll-ice-immigration.html

People are fickle and stupid? Im Shocked

Why would you read the states main propaganda outlet for information?

Do you have a specific claim for why the data is incorrect?

It's paywalled lol

Miss me with that

"what the majority wants" does not mean "no rights being trampled"

this is obvious, right...?

Love to see the will of the people being enforced.

It’s almost as if democracy is immoral

We're a nation of laws and if you want to change those laws you should vote to change them.

Y'all need to stop voting Red because he's "the free market candidate" or "the Bitcoin candidate."

Nobody who wants to occupy the office of POTUS without a commitment to dismantle it on Day 1 is pro-freedom.

You think you're playing "5d chess" by voting for these people... you're voting your freedom away.

We are enforcing immigration law

by shooting Americans in the face

Stop interfering with law enforcement. FAFO

And by "interfere" you mean "film", got it

By interfere I mean interfere

Gonna be talking real soft if they tried that in a small town with guns. Its called the 2A, bootlicker.

They should sh00t you next then 👍.

I support deportations including deporting and shooting you

That's gonna happen to you instead bootlicker 👍.

Stack sats, adopt freedom tech, make circular economies, exercise 2A, make governments kick rocks.

few.

Most

Most people still talking about politicians and giving them time effort thoughts and energy….

Let’s move on

CLAUDE OPUS (paraphrased):

in the 1950s Eisenhower/Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon used the fear of communists to trample over the rights of all Americans (COINTELPRO, loyalty oaths, blacklists)

in the 1940s FDR used the fear of Japanese spies to trample over the rights of all Americans (internment of 120,000 people)

in the 1910s Wilson used the fear of German sympathizers and anarchists to trample over the rights of all Americans (Espionage Act, Sedition Act, Palmer Raids)

in the 1860s Lincoln used the fear of Confederate sympathizers to trample over the rights of all Americans (suspended habeas corpus, jailed journalists)

in the 1850s various admins used the fear of slave rebellions to trample over the rights of all Americans (restricted speech, mail censorship, assembly bans)

in the 1830s Jackson used the fear of "savage" Indians to trample over the rights of Native Americans (forced removal)

in the 1798 Adams used the fear of French Jacobins to trample over the rights of all Americans (Alien and Sedition Acts - jailed people for criticizing the government)

in the 1760s the British colonial administration used the fear of smugglers and sedition to trample over the rights of all colonists (writs of assistance, Intolerable Acts, quartering soldiers, dissolving assemblies)

in the 1750s colonial administrations used the fear of French and Indian attacks to trample over the rights of all colonists (forced quartering, martial law, impressment)

in the 1690s the Massachusetts colonial administration used the fear of witches and the Devil to trample over the rights of all colonists (Salem trials—20 executed, hundreds accused, spectral evidence)

in the 1670s colonial administrations used the fear of Native attacks (King Philip's War) to trample over the rights of all colonists—including interning allied "Praying Indians" on islands where many died

in the 1630s the Massachusetts Bay administration used the fear of heretics and antinomians to trample over the rights of all colonists (banished Anne Hutchinson, Roger Williams, Quakers; executed four Quakers)

in the 1610s the Virginia Company administration used the fear of starvation and Native attack to trample over the rights of all colonists (martial law under "Dale's Code"—execution for minor offenses, forced labor)

Another stupid answer

Another pretentious and irrelevant comment

Clearly our only hope for a just society is defunding everyone.

Especially NGO and USAID

Is there a theme here ? Should i Stack sats on my own keys, run my own node and run naked in the fields ?

great advice

Crisis is the oxygen of the state.

When we begin to clearly see the patterns and the smoking mirrors affects creating confusion and push toward control it becomes easier to take a higher vantage look, navigate and create exit ramps?!

Rinse and repeat. I'm disappointed in the number of bitcoiners on nostr that are falling for this shit. It's so fucking tiresome.

Are you American?

Yes but not sure why that matters. I’ve been asked this so many times the last few days. Can’t criticize a government violating the constitution without being called un-American or a commie. Yall have missed the plot and the founding fathers are rolling in their graves.

Immigration laws are constitutional.

🤦‍♂

not every illegal alien is allowed to stay in this country, in fact none of them are... why is this so difficult to understand? you are either dense or willfully ignorant

Okay fed

Can I shoot you?

Okay time to mute you. GFY.

I prefer American citizen

Your pearl clutching is nauseating

It matters because people like you voted for a socialist terrorist in New York City

I don’t vote

Do you even know who the founding fathers are? It’s not Mohammed or Gandhi

Not all Americans are Bootlickers like you are.

Thanks NPC

I love when Odell is waking up based

Talking about politicians is not based

It’s a waste of time

Especially if your preaching to the choir

Criticizing state power will always be justified, even more so if it's directed at all sides

Talking about the state makes them relevant

It’s like blockbuster movie gallerie

The post office

DVD

Let’s just move on

And let them die

I’m just as anti state as y’all are

That’s kinda my point

It’s preaching to the choir

Now if Marty said this kind of stuff to the normies on YouTube ok get that

But the choir already believes

You don’t have to sell me on something I already bought,……

I understand, these two methods aren't mutually exclusive

looking at the replies one thing is certain... nostr is an ideological monoculture

It's almost like they create the problems, and then then come up with their solutions, which in turn, take away more of your freedoms. 🤔

I distinctly remember a bunch of people - including myself - expecting the government will watch the migration farce get out of hand until regular people demand "decisive action" or some such nonsense, giving them license to unleash their psychopathic murderers, essentially imposing martial law to secure the government's power.

It's the same game, over, and over. And most keep falling for it. NPC's are easy to control. That's why they hate free thinker's. We're the threat.

Thinking is overrated... sitting on the sidelines while thinking means you are effete and feckless

We stand with Trump, the military and ICE.

The illegals must go, and Americans protecting the illegals must go too. Both are criminals.

To paraphrase Mark Twain:

"Patriotism is supporting your government all the time, and your country when it deserves it."

Thank you

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

I agree

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Deportation has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with safety

Stupid comment. You shouldn’t get your news from cnn and Rachel maddow

Fear is the mind virus of government empowerment.

Talking about them makes them relevant

I’m guilty of the same thing

Talking about Epstein’s co conspirators

But that’s because they been fucking children their whole lives and still walking around free

There is few things governments hate more than stirring up a hornets nest and continuing to talk actions that they wish remained out of the public eye

So does ignoring them. A growing problem ignored is a growing problem accepted. Bad government does not just go away

Yes. Lots of retards on NOSTR that disagree

Right but still talking about them and thinking about them is giving your time and energy to the old system…

Let’s move on from all that

Politician right now are like movie gallery or blockbuster in the early 2000s

Espero estar vivo para cuando no dependamos de ningún gobierno. Fuck gobiernos 🤬

speak English amigo

No son el centro del universo, hay muchos idiomas en el mundo

Speak English please

No

This is why I support deportations

The topic is about USA not the world

E allora?

Go fellate yourself

If only

More utopian nonsense. I wish we could shoot illegal invaders with impunity

I voted for deportations by any means necessary

At least people voted for deportations

Left. Right. Left. Right.

2 boots, same trampling.

The keyword is American. Not Mexican or Latin American

You are so courageous and independent for supporting open and illegal immigration!

that's a nice picture of your licking the boots of your Somali tribal chief

Why are you protecting illegals and communists?

You have to be an idiot if you think an army of militarized feds asking for papers is a good idea

You must love Rachel Maddow

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if you are going to shill palantir on a nascent open protocol i hope you own the stock

You don't give me enough credit, Odell. Everyone knows I am well aware of the threat of a Social Credit Surveillance State powered by Palentir.

What's your strategy? Overthrow the government with the communist troon force and hope you don't end up in a mass grave?

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> You don't give me enough credit, Odell.

you are on my lawn bro

In Communist America, it's my lawn, too.

trump isnt perfect, far from it, even if he is definitely better than the alternative

he is fucking us, if you want to be complicit so be it

Yes we are getting nailed to a wall.

I am aware.

He is antagonizing the Left into a religious ferver and then not actually following through, creating a monster by threatening them with a loss of power (by way of undoing their monopoly on illegal votes + welfare).

Just read nostr:nprofile1qqstjqpcx0atlun36puzuqctucdhasuvul295xu6s60mmv6tnckjqqqpp3mhxue69uhkyunz9e5k7qg4waehxw309ajkgetw9ehx7um5wghxcctwvsh3l72r's clown blog to see the type of Joker shit they are cooking up. It's gonna be like those gore movies... Saw, I think it was.

Meanwhile, even if the RW does obliterate today's gay globalist LW, the new Left/Right axis becomes: Zionist Israel/American Axis vs Populist Homeland Americans, which obviously results in a Palantir social credit surveillance state and a continuation of forever wars around the world.

Regardless, the immediate threat of being flooded with illegals seems very bad for America, especially when you consider what it did to Europe.

There is no way not to "be complicit" in some aspect of everything going on.

Not taking action is taking action.

Just like saving #Bitcoin is an attack on the fiat system, doing nothing while communists take over is an attack on your homeland as an American.

Standing on the sidelines while you and your family become hyper diluted with foreigners is "being complicit".

You know what I mean?

> Not taking action is taking action.

agree

good thing i am not standing on the sidelines

Well that's a relief to hear.

You don't give me enough credit, Laser.

That's not true, actually.

Love to see it

For whatever reason, the #Bitcoin space seems to be air balling on this concept, of which the austrian econ greats affirmed.

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Printing "Citizens" = Theft.

You can steal wealth by printing currency.

You can steal a nation by printing "citizens".

Mass Migration = Hyperinflation = Confiscation via Dilution.

Exactly. Creating new technology is the most impactful thing you can do.

The real revolution is in git-repos, not in the streets.

It all flows down from from the creators.

Building is a single track that does not exclude actors from "playing the board" elsewhere.

I was able to write code and vote for Trump, knowing it might be better nut not really in the greater sense, but strategically it made sense.

Similarly, I build things while also not preventing some basic prepping.

Tracks exist and a single actor can play the board across multiple tracks.

Not doing something in a track is doing something in that track: nothing.

Yes it is an attack on your homeland by the same ICE you are supporting. Given the same ICE shepherded them through the border two years ago, do you think they care about America, and what they are doing will remain against illegals only? Already, how many citizens have been caught in their dragnet, surveilled, searched, harassed, or worse? What happens when the commies are back with all this precedent set for them to build upon?

Going around pop pop pop usa citizens is gonna help eh.

On my reading list, Amazon is selling the new published version on Kindle and paperback

lololol, great response

We don’t need a militarized army of feds in our streets that have “total immunity” and are instructed to ignore the 4th amendment in order to deport people. I’m sure you’re also a fan of KYC/AML rules cause they “fight terrorism”

You sound like Rachel Maddow

mandibles

then bitcoin standard

couldn’t come soon enough

Lionel Shriver supports deportations and Trump

I'll take the next Democrat administration using illegals and commies to trample people's rights for $500 Alex. 😂

🤔…not sure but there seems to be some sorta pattern there😳🤦🏽‍♂️😂🫡⭕️

pure coincidencez

Dang it…..I shoulda known🤦🏽‍♂️

….im becomin one ⭕️ them dadgum conspiracy hypothesists 🤔😳🤷🏽‍♂️

once a Casino boss gets elected to Congress, they immediately become a trustworthy expert. its just natural law

🤔😳…in retrospect this logic seems flawless🤦🏽‍♂️….and no doubt intuitively obvious to those with a higher pay grade than me🤷🏽‍♂️😂⭕️

Fear is a weapon used by all politicians.

I’m sensing a pattern here…

The more reason why we should continue to stack sats! 🫡

Dan Carlin was the first podcaster I ever sent #bitcoin to. I began listening to him after the nostr:nprofile1qqsgfhhxuemwtwm8kjk5uppv7uxtmp5pz4wm2dv59lxx5pfnsk98ysqpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5hsy9r3u6 leaks.

This note basically summed up a dozen years of his Common Sense podcast.

You were cheering for Trump when he attacked Venezuela.

But now it's starting to impact your life you no longer support the sex traffickers?

Or will you start supporting him again when you see more brown people get killed?

I don't remember him supporting that, pretty sure it was Marty.

What American rights are ‘being trampled on’ due to the ‘fear’ of illegal immigrants? Be specific.

2A

And 4A. Also don't be myopic about it and look where this leads.

I fail to see the argument here. Is there a disagreement betwixt us?

What rights are they trampling on for ordinary Americans? This is hyperbolic BS Matt

2nd Amendment to being with. Admins rhetoric is troubling on this front

Also 4th, you can't weed out illegals from citizens without surveilling and harassing a lot of citizens. Anyways, this misses the point entirely of normalizing gestapo behavior that can and will be turned on citizens: the label domestic terrorist can and will be arbitrarily applied wherever politically convenient.

My cousin is brown, DHS walked up to him on the street asked him if he was a citizen. He said yes in his American English accent and they were friendly with him and told him to have a nice day.

Nice racist anecdote. Your cousin got off easy. That is not how it goes down in many places

If there is no immigration enforcement America would be turned into mogadishu and none of the freedoms and rights we value would be preserved.

Nobody is flooding in now. Where were you when ICE was blocking anyone trying to get in the way of the mass invasion two years ago? Do you think that is not going to resume in the next administration? The migrants are pawns and ICE are agents of chaos.

Where and when did they trample on the 2nd?

Friend if you question is in good confidence. I suggest you look at the slippery slope the Administrations retorhic has been on CC in the incident. The NRA had to release a statement rebuking the Admin.

There's a word for this... What was it... 🤔... Using fear to gain political power... Oh yeah! Terrorism.

Here’s the quick, clean timeline:

• March 1, 2003 – ICE officially began operations

• It was created as part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)

• This followed the Homeland Security Act of 2002, passed after the 9/11 attacks

Distilled dystopia

In 2032, the people use the fear of #bitcoin to trample over the perceived rights of the administration.

A tale as old as time

Interesting that you lump illegals and communists together

Ah the public victims.

Forever complacent.

They're still at it in 2026! Ice has been shooting regular everyday citizens!

It appears to me that one side is worse than the other

How were your rights trampled Matt?

Nah, the ICE drama is not Trump’s fault.

It’s the communist Left going berserk because they’re threatened by the country finally enforcing immigration law, which puts corruption money and illegal votes at risk.

Getting illegal aliens out also deals a blow to the number of Representatives in the House. You lose population, you lose seats.. The Deep State doesn't like that.

100%

Great point.

You really feel Trump is doing this? How do you cut taxation & regulations, giving the power back to the citizen, and think he's taking rights away? What rights are we talking about?

Illegals need to go

Power corrupts.

What rights? Seems the common story is that your rights are fabricated.

When fear becomes a governing tool, rights become negotiable.

It doesn’t matter who’s in office.

What matters is how easily people accept control when they’re scared.

Real leadership empowers people, it doesn’t rule them through fear.

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When fear becomes a governing tool, rights become negotiable.

It doesn’t matter who’s in office.

What matters is how easily people accept control when they’re scared.

Real leadership empowers people, it doesn’t rule them through fear.

I read through many of the replies to this post, this is the one I liked the most.

I agree. The focus should be elsewhere. A discussion about values is far more interesting than putting blame on anyone.

I've thought about what values bitcoin operate best under.

Judging by what's happening with BIP110, and every other "consensus debate", how we arrive at consensus changes.

It's possible to extract the values that have shown to align people, and arrive at a solution that benefits everyone.

Maybe we can extract those values together.

all the tools we allow the state to use against terrorists can and probably will be used against us too, eventually.

GM

Facts.

Why should Americans have to compete with illegal immigrants for jobs and housing?

In the housing market immigration of all kinds drives up prices.

In the labor market immigrants force Americans to compete with the entire world.

Why is that a good thing in your mind?

How do these examples not directly infringe on the notion of America being a nation?

Just pull yourself up by the bootstraps.

Thanks for the advice

Stocks are booming bro, what you talking about?

Oh ok you were serious.

Can you answer any of the questions I asked in my original comment?

Well look into it and get back to you in two weeks.

I'll be here.

Are you afraid of immigrant competition? Capitalism, we need to compete. Prices going up is good for everyone.

Why should anyone in any country be forced to compete with immigrants/the world to get any job within their country?

We don't need to compete. It doesn't benefit the citizens of the country.

People are not interchangeable economic units. People are not just laborers.

Please pitch to the lower economic third of any country that "prices going up is good for everyone" or how about pitch to the elderly living on fixed incomes that "prices going up is good for everyone"

You're clearly a nihilist that thinks people don't matter.

It’s the money printer that’s the problem. Your government keeps debasing your money. It’s not the immigrants. You’re not my enemy, for once we agree on one thing. The whole shit is fucked up. Fix the money, fix the world.

If you don't think the federal reserve printing money and immigration are connected you're confused.

It's both. Two things can be true at the same time.

You're still not answering why anyone in any country should be forced to compete against all people in the world for jobs and or housing?

Damn you’re right. When you’re right you’re right.

The immigration debate is a complicated issue that intertwines legal & illegal immigration, the concern of cultural change, strain on the welfare system, the absurdly overcomplicated and expensive legal immigration process, the desire of native-borns to protect their jobs from competition, and a dozen other issues. Until people are willing to separate each of these concerns and address them one-by-one, we're not going to reach any form of clarity or consensus.

war on terror = fake

covid = fake

illegal invasion = 100% real

Yes but it was created by the government. They create the issue then fix it! But it just leaves everything in a larger mess.

💯 This is a good example of why I have always liked you. It depresses me that so many people fall for the state's bullshit. All they want is a population that is both divided and afraid so they can keep us enslaved while we cheer for our own enslavement. The state should scare people much more than anything else.

The US is not an economic zone open to the world. The US is more than Wall Street or GDP. It has had its own culture and people. Economy uber alles has hollowed out the middle class, raised rents and real estate prices and other prices, imported people who don't give a shit about what Americans value (see 2nd Amendment). There must be limits on who comes here, like in the past. Biden let 20 million in,in 4 years (!) mostly no skills people who cannot speak or read English. These were cynically let in to game voting system. The illegals all have to go back. It's the law. If you don't like it then get the law changed. Look at Ireland - the Irish government is replacing the native Irish with africans, pakis and Indians. People need to wake up and understand what's going on.

We are not replaceable economic units. We are a people. We all know what an American is and we are either going to find out the easy way or the hard way that we are willing to die and kill to be looked at and respected as a people.

https://video.nostr.build/8eb0bd1b4b8fb9806ec2042c30bd5d678251a21d62db45e1d339d30f6d09309f.mp4

Just so we are all clear about what's going on and so no one can say they didn't know.