hey nostr. currently eating dinner and trying to wrap my head around this exchange I had with "Altcoin Daily"

if the truth makes people fearful, uncertain, and doubtful is that still FUD?

the fact that shitcoiners are like "nah yeah everything you said on TV is 100% correct, but by telling everyone the truth youre scaring people from buying our shitcoin" has really put my brain in a pretzel

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fuck em

That’s a silly account.

it can be FUD if that’s what they want to call it. doesn’t make it any less true

the immediate switchup

No that’s not FUD. FUD is misleading and dishonest in nature. Lmao so funny that they said that.

Classic shitcoiner behaviour

Its like saying don’t be honest because it hurts my feelings. These lying pieces of shit will stop at nothing to continue their racket and to prey on vulnerable morons.

Continue.

Classic example of someone that wants the truth, but “You can’t handle the truth.”

He's salty because what you said was true

Have fun 😊

Biiiiiitcoooooooiiin ⚡

What I see is bottom line #Ethereum may have some functional value that the Universe finds useful. I personally don't have a clue, because I haven't learned anything about it. 🤤

They’re just hanging on by fingernails at this point.

The truth is never FUD. The truth is the truth, how one feels about it is irrelevant, it simply is.

Yeah wtf is that nostr:note1ej3k6620wk7wnv6w4ag2vpu26j6rpvy8vl30ut86240mxj5fn4fqz6hxd9

I think because you are true to yourself people take you word because they feel it’s not a play/game what you do. More and more people see this 👁️ Its really refreshing standing for what you say and also in a fun way. Not taking yourself to serious. (The humble way) stay doing what you do, don’t loose your self stay close to your heart 💫 Have a good dinner. Cheers from Bangkok (breakfast time)

NO, THANK YOU JACK FOR OPENING PEOPLE'S EYES

AS A BITCOINER IT IS OUR DUTY TO SPREAD TRUTH.

no mercy

a fart by any other name

THEY WANT TO RIDE THE WAVE

To be fair, the tweet from shitcoin daily clearly states: “fud”, which is not FUD. Which is to say, if one does not ODELL the fud, one could in fact not be claiming it to be actual FUD, given the CAPLOCK-ing of said acronym in question.

Their response is a bunch of meandering bullshit. “Always inspiring to hear to speak about bitcoin-only” and by the way, buy our shitcoin. These “communities” have a vested interest in pumping their own bags, and it always comes out in the wash when you start questioning their fundamentals.

It’s #Bitcoin only because of the fundamental properties that do not exist in ANY other monetary instrument

The rest is fluff and snake oil sold by crypto bros with fiat brain

I think FUD implies that the claims are baseless. You’re good brother, keep up the great work!

Speaking the truth is not FUD; in fact, it is a moral duty. Additionally, I have not yet heard any reasonable argument as to why anyone should buy Ethereum. It is centralized and inefficient, pure gambling with no clear vision whatsoever.

Fear always moves people, forward or backward.

Let everyone be happy with their currency.

We shouldn’t save anyone.

Remember, All digital currencies are a consensus network around a psychological concept. Pretty much anyone agreeing that they think money is like this while someone else says I think money is like this. You can not have a consensus about different currencies with different protocols. Otherwise all altcoins would run on bitcoins chain. It is important to learn how to respectfully disagree with someone who has a different view than your own.

First of all chaumin e-cash and robux are digital currencies with no consensus.

Second of all, some of these shitcoins really be backed by a single personality. Like a founder or president (Charles) or CEO or business and they often have backdoors to ensure their word is "consensus"

Is it really consensus if the options are go along with a hard fork 1 person decided to implement or leave?

In my opinion, Federated tokens are shitcoins too. Anything you trade your bitcoin for is inherently less valuable than bitcoin, Giving it “shitcoin” status. Chaumian ecash does work, But so does ethereum. The consensus is that bitcoin has the widest adoption, And is the most valuable.

Yes. I think you took my note as an endorsement of e-cash for some reason when in reality, it was a bashing of the idea that all digital currencies are consensus networks.

If a government body has consensus on something we don't say that the people being subjugated to its decision as participating in consensus.

A single personality like David Chaum?

Yes in the cash of digi cash

I think you hurt his feelings 😂

‘’There is so much more’’

Like what?

A centralized POS story…..

Insane

people often don’t fully comprehend what they themselves say, like any LLM that spits out sentences that contradict.

Hilarious. Keep at it Jack. You kick ass!

Never doubt the basic goodness of helping people not get wrecked.

Altcoin Daily clearly don't understand what FUD actually means

Indeed people that continue to support ETH, whilst recognising the FUD is truth are either:

a) nefarious in their actions b) totally blinded into extreme naiivety

Neither option is a good one... Keep up the hustle!

Galileo spent much of his life in prison for presenting indisputable evidence that the Earth revolves about the Sun. Was he right, but just too early? No wonder Satoshi went off the radar after handing Humanity this gift.

the truth is FUD to them because they don't want people knowing. that said, i really do believe that many shitcoiners just do not care. they know that they're gambling and that's all that matters to them.

Gaslighting + Conspiracy combo. Bitcoin isn't some big secret. Get real.

Maybe they're taking a calculated risk? Or maybe they know something we don't? Maybe or maybe not. Must be measured in our opinions. Must acknowledge that we don't know everything. And that's fine. If one is Bitcoin only that's fine. If one holds other coins then that's fine too. I've lost way too many friends by labeling them Shitcoiner and calling them that.

your message is great. it is a distraction. Because not jusr becauzs of geneis and there in only one bitcoin, but literally too many distracting overlapping tech:

farcaster > nostr

L2s > lightening / Fediments

VC funded pump and dumps > legit VC non coin tech

etc etc

it's not just a distracrion is dilutes resorces and activs users acrosscompeting but same vision tech. one being the apex and one being a pump and dumo bononza.

Hopefully you scare and FUD them into Bitcoin !

Lightning and fedimint are L2s...

Their incentives are such that they have to have content everyday and get paid by to promote “things” and a new show.

No more thought ought to be wasted on their motivations or direction.

That’s the point isn’t it? To instil FUD in Ethereum by relaying the truth. I guess one could argue that FUD is bad when it’s based on lies in order to mislead, and good when it’s based on truth to educate and warn those to steer clear. Negative FUD vs positive FUD (or is FUD always inherently negative 🤔).

Unfortunately their entire business depends on truth being fud

like yea we know it's dog shit but we still wanna scam people with it...

Ah yes the "any criticism is bad because our project is perfect" mentality.

If crypto does succeed it'll be in spite of this mentality instead of because of it. Nobody changed the world for the better with cognitive dissidence and cult like mentality.

you should have fear uncertainty and doubt with crypto. that shit is worse than fiat

ChatGPT: “FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) typically refers to spreading misleading or exaggerated information to create negative perceptions. If information is true but presented in a way to induce fear or uncertainty, it might still be considered FUD-like behavior.”

However, IMHO truth trumps FUD. 🙂

Is it FUD to tell people the dollar is inflating much faster than they are telling us, or that the national debt is skyrocketing and can only be comprehended on a logarithmic chart and the fiat jig is almost over?

The altcoiners, in my estimation, aren't playing a long game and they're hoping their coin will someday yield news of being adopted by a big bank, central bank or could be used for international settlements. They are waiting for a pump only so they can dump bags for fiat. They aren't expecting a grass-roots movement to overcome the archaic debt-paper shell game, they're betting on complete and total overwhelming global totalitarian fascism and surveillance.

They aren't fighting back, they aren't fighting foe good. They're hoping to ride the war machine's wave of destruction and are operating from a perspective of defeated utter powerlessness.

Hmmm, what is this "much more" , Altcoin Daily?

Do not argue with fools, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

No doubt. I just couldn't believe my eyes to be honest lol

How many cycles you think till we get no more shitcoinery?

Infinite. And why use the term shitcoinery? Like using the term Heresy etc. They're entitled to do with their money as they please. Bitcoin is not Islam.

Yes

Yes

Yes

Everyone says yes to be in your good books. You nod at each other and make a lovely echo chamber.

Screw that!

Wake Up! ⏰️

CrYpTo twitter is a special place where truth is “FUD.”

Cool quote, but actually FUD 😉

"If the truth shall kill them, let them die" is falsely attributed to Kant, and actually stems from Ayn Rand paraphrasing Kant"

More: https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/72021/what-is-the-basis-for-kants-misquote-if-the-truth-shall-kill-them-let-them-di

Fuck 'em. There is plenty of room for everyone in the lifeboats, but we have to accept the fact that most people won't hop in. Teach, stack, and chill.

hey are u FUDing pretzels?

speak the truth. those searching will find it. the others have made their choice

We live in a society that shuns criticism, even if it's constructive and true. Most people are more afraid of offending someone than speaking the truth, even if the truth can save their life. Don't look up. Don't face the truth.

No one will truly embrace Bitcoin until:

1) They’re disillusioned w/ Fiat money

2) They understand the Cypherpunk culture

3) They begin studying Bitcoin

All 3 of those, imho, are necessary to a true approach to Bitcoin.

So personally, I fade the tourists.

True plebs know that the Money they’ve known their whole lives is a broken lie, that the people who forced that money on us and lied to us are illegitimate scammers, and that Bitcoin offers a chance at a rich future Humanity has never had a chance of hoping for until 2009.

They are scammers

cope

they have already branded themselves with "Altcoin" unfortunately and have to go down with the ship/shit

tell him HFSP, buh bye 😄

In case of reflexivity, yes.

Some people are just insane! Keep up the great work.

the majority of humans hold several contradictory ideas in their mind at the same time and get angry when you show them the contradiction

this is the product of brainwashing, nearly 100 years of Public Relations

Love what you've said about ETH cause it's true. The DAO hack showed us that ETH can't be trusted, that the people developing the wallets cannot be trusted and that they'll rollback the chain at any time, for their friends.

I watched your interview. You certainly were not Fearful, Uncertain or Doubtful. You were simply stating facts.

If you express that a bicycle’s front wheel has a loose nut, causing the wheel to come off at any time, that ain’t FUD. That’s facts.

".. didn't say it was untrue.."

"..convey and leads people to believe.."

-You are saying the truth-

-I'm trying to make the truth sound less true, saying its can be scary if people know it-

-Oh and I will lick your ass saying it's great how you don't bend over shitcoins incentives calling you a maxi and sub intending that is a closed minded view-

That right there was FiatShitcoinDaily Mind at its peak.. 🤡

nostr:npub1cn4t4cd78nm900qc2hhqte5aa8c9njm6qkfzw95tszufwcwtcnsq7g3vle expose them more! 💜🫂🤙

I guess in the land of shitcoin affinity scams truth is FUD.

Maybe it needs to be FUDded more often by others then too. 🤷

BITCOIN IS FREEDOM

I don't think there is "much more" to the Ethereum story.

Keep telling the unfiltered truth🫡

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The truth threatens their everything

I guess the question should be whether the FUD has a strong basis in reasoning and facts.

FUD in itself is not specific enough when taken literally.

Some things it is very rational and wise to have lots of FUD about

So perhaps some qualifying words should be added and the focus should probably be on the reasons why we use the particular qualifiers.

I think it causes FUD, but it’s up to everyone to interpret if it’s merited FUD or not for whatever topic. Eth should be fudded imo.

Can you fud someone into not jumping off a bridge?

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mAliNfORmaTIon!

That's the definition of malinformation: it's true, but it might make people do things that we don't like.

"The banks are inherently unstable, but it's malinformation to say so because people might try to take their money out."

"Sure, these are legitimate points about the public health decisions, but we must censor them because they will make people doubt public health officials."

Shitcoin Daily

Keep being you Jack. I'm still laughing at how you roasted "Epstein's Banker". Gonna go down as one of the best!

hamstercoin representation in the future

you "scared" shitcoiners - LOL

the truth is sometimes gonna make folks uncomfortable...even fearful

best to advise them to put on a fucking helmet

can *in some cases* offer a hug - specially if they are seeing their way thru to come to the truth

guess they are just delusional Jack and have been given over to an altcoin mind....appreciate the truth as always on my end 🫡⚡️

ah yes the good old truth fud. deadly danger to shitcoins

I thought your take leaned more positive for eth than fud, especially when you described it as more of a tech investment. But maybe most people don’t knowingly invest in or understand, for example, companies can have unethical starts and hiccups as they grow. That’s not fud, it’s just something to keep in mind when investing.

I'm not going to mince my words on this:

You've brought shame to Bitcoin before with your deception. You put photos around suggesting you had a deal with apple. Then a middle finger to an ATM. A falsified video of you paying with BTC in a store and a so called deal with NCR where you assured everyone that by the end of the year they'd be paying with Bitcoin in major US stores.

Scammy Pump and Dump Boiler room tactics.

Then you shamelessly said "Oh the media is finding my boogers on the internet"

You've lost all credibility.

You're trying to gaslight us here. I read their article. They made excellent points. You couldn't counter their arguments intelligently enough and are now whining. Everyone won't throw you softball questions, everyone won't just go along with what you say. Have proper counter arguments ready or acknowledge that they may have a point or that you need to consider their opinions and get back to them.

nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m may molly coddle you or flatter you. That's upto him. I'm just going to kick you in the nuts coz that's what will wake you up. Your cap wearing, swearing, scammy pumping and gaslighting don't work any more. Get real, get serious, build or go home. Vaporware can only last so long. Fake videos can only last so long. Photos suggesting huge deals eventually come to light as lies.

nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m your friend Bob Lee was working on MobileCoin (which my VC relative backed BTW). It qualifies as a shitcoin right? So he was a dirty shitcoiner then right? Let's all heap insults on him sall we? Oh we shouldn't because he's deceased? But it's okay to slander and insult the living?