actually a robot will be flipping burgers but the human they replace doesn't ask for 200k a year.

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Thank you for your testimony Calle, I would like not to miss the AI tick but I don’t know where to start. Any advice? I want to learn how to run a local LLM to start for example.

AI is research done for you. Experienced coders should embrace it first or else those learning programming and software development shall indeed use these tools and surpass them.

totally agree.

which tools are you specifically using? cursor? any recommendations?

seeing the output you produce I would love to hear your tips

I spent three months off the keyboard, because I traveled with the family. I already used multiple Ai tools for coding for some time and you’re kind of used to the performance.

The past week I setup claude code for the first time which is shockingly great and cursor got so much better as well. It’s absolutely crazy. It’s amazing and scary, but also it just is what it is and it will never be the same again.

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Super boring to code without ai

And for those of us with zero coding experience, but who would like to use AI to learn and create something useful, how do you see the likelihood of that happening, and the learning curve attached?

GM! 🌅🍳🥓☕️ Agree. Having a faster car won't make us a better driver. So far, advances in AI are moving in that direction. It's quite possible that, over time, this will all change. I just hope we don't run over anyone until that day.

You mean we still need to work after this super cycle? Oh fuck. At least I still have an AI gf

In months? Years? What do you think

This isn’t a drill. LLMs are eating boilerplate, scaffolding, and even design thinking. If you don’t get good at prompting + reviewing AI output now, you’ll be unemployable before you realize it.

Calle, the robots will also be flipping the burgers

It's even bigger than what you're saying... massively parallel programming languages will be invented quicker than block validation occurs

Facts

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…and IT and “solution architects” next

"I'm a lighthouse. Your call."

Coders were used to generating disruption, now the disruption is catching them with code. Paradigm shift.

No lies detected.

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What I find interesting is the folks who say AI will open up our time so we can make art/music etc. while all the suits lose their jobs.

Curious, as a professional noise maker, where’s everyone getting the income to be an artist, when it’s already a pretty precarious career choice?

One guy the other day said it would free up time for skiing… cool! I like skiing… skiing’s pretty expensive right? Hmmm…

conclusion....

dont be a coder.

Do shit with your hands.

Totally agree. I code since I was 11. This completely changed everything.

Arquitecture planning

Libraries or solutions research

Instant predictions

Prompt to code

Bug fixing

You need some seniority if you want it for more than prototyping tho

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Here's hoping the more retarded/boring sides of engineering, namely devops and reliability, get also a boost from AI. Good grief.

What tools do you recommend?

Made a really good living as a software developer from 1994-2020, then retired. So glad I got out before the advent of AI.

I still code for fun on hobby projects but dang, if I still needed income from coding gigs, I’d be toast! I’d never advise a young person to get into the industry.

I have never met an anyone that is genuinely more productive with AI. They’ve definitely been faster at chiming out slop, though.

This is why I'm buying land 😂

Bad programmers existed in the days of the search engine, in the days of stack overflow copy/pasting, and will exist in the days of AI

If you don’t learn to incorporate AI, maybe I will hire you.

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When the smartest folks in the room yell FIRE listen!

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Yep I am going so much faster now with these tools. It's unreal and so fun

The AI explosion has forced me to think about this quote from The Sovereign Individual.

Is Steak N Shake hiring?

"If you are still at the stage of selecting a career, resist the temptation of jumping to an easy conclusion that the best route to success in the Information Age is to become a computer programmer. Yes, it is true that programmers have been in great demand as the Information Revolution unfolded in the last quarter of the twentieth century. But as computational power has increased, artificial intelligence has developed apace. A company called Authorgenics has already demonstrated the capacity to create object-oriented software without programmers. You won’t be highly paid by studying to do something that can be done with Aladdin’s Lamp."

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opposite

Coders who refuse vibe coming will be the handloom weavers of the 19th century, fighting a losing battle against the mechanization of expertise

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The job market for real coders is only going to grow because of all the ai slop code being produced.

The majority of people using AI to make code are not coders and they will need help to fix all the mistakes the ai makes.

Only 10 years in my career. Not a prolific coder by any means. The workflow changes Claude code introduced have fundamentally changed everything for me. I’ve produced 10x and manually written so much less code. The progress in the last few years has been astounding

indeed

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I'm an irreplaceable genius with some sort of extremely valuable and rare skill

Spot on.

At the same time, seeing the level of privacy wrecking, lies, manipulation & self-preservation strategies that the most advanced LLM's are already capable of, there should be a growing need for "human-only AI(r) gapped developed code", and for mesh networks where AI agents are "personAI non grata".

If I only use models running locally will I be OK? Or do I need to get used to the big cloud providers because they have all the "advanced" features?

This is a sad reality for me tbh, but I'm learning to accept it

Sage advice

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Favorite tool and/or LLM for vibe coding?

Agreed.

Not only coding. Cybersecurity too. Too many attack vectors.

I've learned that coding is where the bugs are. And that security has to walk hand in hand with developers from design through to finished product. If security is developed just before launch as a bolt on - the security team will not be able to detect failure as quickly.

AI is fast at connecting dots. The scary part was Anthropic found that an AI under threat has the ability to re-write code.

What do I know. I only read stuff. Operating a microwave is a mission for me.

devs need to learn to use these tools but this is not a big issue imo, but i think we have maybe 10 years until we are no longer needed for most devs, team will only need a handfull of devs for big projects. TLDR : we will be flipping burgers anyway in 10 years, until then make the most of it to stack sats.

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I half agree. Ok maybe a bit less than half.

It's awesome and groundbreaking.

If you let it code a project from the get go it's a throw away project(as of now), excellent to explore ideas and for quick personal tools.

It gets the structure of the core abstractions and the basic ideas massively wrong. It does better in an advanced project where it can reuse well defined types and do specific task you ask.

It's really good at looking at your code and finding possible bugs, suggesting improvements.

If it gets much better, most of the techniques and tricks you learned will be useless. Whoever comes later might just find better and more effective ways to use it.

How long has your entire life been?

Very true, like this movie explain it was for the first computer vs human mathematical calculations :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Figures

It is the same conclusion, adapt to it or you are "dead".

I believe that one day in the future, AI will also be used on yachts.

https://www.yachttrading.com/new-yachts-for-sale/

Right, because people who flip burgers will never be replaced by robots 😂

Well, luckily you can always start, get inspired and learn to do something else and totally different.. There are endless possibilities between coding and flipping burgers. Question is, what do you really want to do, how you spend your time and what for. 🤗🙏

English has now become the most powerful programming language.