Totally predictable
Left-wing groups are now getting debanked under Trump and need Bitcoin 
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the fuck
Wonder when Greenpeace will come knocking
Habitat is highly respected by millions. 2026 backlash of epic proportions.
Legit fraud is legit fraud.
Just because they have a cutsie feel good name doesn't entitled them to fraudulent activity.
That article says nothing about fraudulent activity. They are victims of the Trump purge of anything good.
You realize the root word for defraud is fraud, right? That word is in the image.
That aside, if you want to pour your own money into Habitat for Humanity, go right ahead, but don't force me to do that with my money via taxes.
Where can I see the court ruling on this fraud accusation? Please post here.
Fuck leftist. They are treated with kid gloves. They use our values against us. The right needs to fight back. Are we really pretending lime this?
Hey, Bitcoin is for everyone
Get a grip. The right is the same bullshit at the core without the wild and outlandish beliefs(many very hurtful for sure). But they both aim to use the fkin State to shit on freedom and property. Period.
🥂 To making both sides pro Bitcoin.
Basically: “you can understand Bitcoin the easy way or the hard way”. The had the chance to choose the easy way, not they get the hard way.
A criminal investigation is not “debanking” for political reasons. As we learned in the recent past, criminal investigations and law fare can be political. No?
HfH is a scam. At least the one I've dealt with is.
There are many franchises. The LA one is a lean and mean machine.
They don't need Bitcoin. Bitcoin is crashing. Don't be stuck holding the bag.
Devil takes the hindmost.
Yes Bitcoin is crashing from $1 to $83k
Nocoiners are gonna take some Ls under the Trump II administration
Habitat for humanity is a great organization that builds homes for low income folk.
However why are they receiving funds from the EPA? Presumably this is under the microscope.
left wing fools realizing that creating tools for persecuting their opponents ends up with them at the end of the gun barrel as well
One of these days Greenpeace may need Bitcoin. Bitcoin doesn't hold grudges; its utility is there for its enemies too
You hate to see it.
You hate to see NGOs not being able to move billions of tax payer money to outside financial institutions to avoid government oversight?
Keep the cope coming
Lol no one is buying your spinned fake news
The only “news” I am implying is that critics of the current American government can of course also use Bitcoin, not just its supporters
You’re implying that Trump is going after leftist groups just because they are leftist and not because they are corrupt or criminal.
We weren’t born yesterday, everyone knows exactly what you were implying.
I don’t care what they use as long as it’s not my taxes. Shady NGOs are welcome to request bitcoin donations, but something tells me it won’t go as far as that sweet taxpayer money they were getting
If they’ve committed a crime prosecute them. Otherwise, go fuck yourself with this debanking shit. You sound like a Lizzy Warren minion. Shame on you.
When the Left is in power, they shut down and criminalize the Right.
When the Right is in power, they shut down and criminalize the Left.
This should not be… and is a terrible precedent.
"Show me the incentive and I will show you the outcome." -Carlie Munger on Fiat
That’s a generalization and not specific to this instance or any of the other corruption DOGE has found.
There are actual criminals out there. We can’t just look the other way because people make it political.
Precedent went out the window during the Biden administration.
Bringing accountability and justice to shadowy NGOs is exactly the precedent we want.
I'd you believe Doge, congrats you've swallowed the bait and the sinker of purest propaganda bs.
sure maybe fiat system IZ out of balance & needz more youngrz(ezerz 2 manage)2 supplement but f'n olde blood @ the sake of new IZ beyond strategic/critical thot imho*/*
I think nostr:npub1k7vkcxp7qdkly7qzj3dcpw7u3v9lt9cmvcs6s6ln26wrxggh7p7su3c04l , you need to provide some examples that substantiates your claim here. Ideally examples that are equally burdensome if your point is to equate the culpability of both parties. I don’t see that they equate at all.
Keep in mind that there are several policy stances that the left now oppose which they supported just a couple administrations ago. …such as gay marriage 🤷♂️
Completely agree. What's amazing is that in spite of this, people still will excuse such action merely because *generally* bitcoiners get more flak from the left, so they assume the right has their best interests at heart. The truth is neither do, and any rightwing/leftwing support you get is because it's politically expedient in that moment.
"Taxpayer money" is the people being defrauded by the United States Government. Start there
You would cry about child trafficking rings getting debanked
Habitat for humanity is a child trafficking ring? Get real.
No, I was making a point
I think what he’s saying is that the pendulum swings both ways- and Bitcoin is neutral to politics therefore resilient to overstepping in both directions. I’m with you that corrupt groups should not be funded by taxpayer dollars and am largely supportive of what’s happening- but this is the type of blind partisan action that could blow back in 4 years.
We can’t be scared of doing the right thing because the other side may retaliate later. We are not talking about grandma’s bakery getting debanked because she doesn’t agree with Trump.
There’s no “other side”. You’re alienating people from the “right thing” with this type of approach (creating future problems for your moral mission).
When you build centralized power structures, eventually the other side wins the election.
Bitcoin is not ready to serve everyones needs with no kyc, and Bitcoiners who care about this are bullied away.
Please let's get Drivechains over with, or OP_CAT or something.
Or fuck it let's monetize Signet.
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WTF? Habitat is not a partisan organization. It’s fucking as American as it gets in the non-profit world. They don’t give away housing- they build affordable homes, find qualified people on the cusp and help them attain financing to get a mortgage. They have a huge success rate. H4H LA (who I’ve worked with personally) runs a lean and mean machine with tons of community volunteers and a core group of badass builders.
Habitat is not left wing. It’s not a partisan organization.
Bitcoiners after the truckets debacle still don't understand that there is a difference between fungible Monero and non-fungible Bitcoin.
It'll beva hard lesson for many.
Eroding core American principles such as innocent until proven guilty is a sure way to erode trust in the American experiment. Freezing bank accounts should be a penalty used if and when a party is proven to have violated laws at the time the offenses occurred.
If someone stole a large sum of money from you, wouldn't you want their bank account to be frozen during the course of the investigation and trial so that you actually had some hope of being reimbursed?
I completely understand and respect your position. If, say, you believed that stole your private property, my funds should be frozen until the matter resolved.
My challenge is that this is a slippery slope to abuse. What if I did not actually steal from you, months without access to my money means I will lose my house and my family will starve.
Worse yet, I’m concerned for the possibility of abuse. Perhaps you just don’t like the way I write on Nostr, and you make an accusation that results in my financial ruin? What recourse would I have apart from waiting months for the legal system to decide I was innocent?
The stuff I can buy with money isn't magically protected if it gets stolen
I can see how it would be useful to solve that problem for the money itself, but solving it seems to create more problems - then again, so does money itself
Indentured servitude. The stolen money is gone? The thief better get to work. Not got to prison. Working to pay back the principle amount stolen plus interest. A lot of interest. On a chain gang at gun point if they refuse to work for garnished wages.
Are they getting debanked, or was the money rushed out into those groups at the last possible moment with not much transparency?
But Bitcoin is evil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe they need euroCBDC.
Already in this give year plan!
It was always about which political party get to control the Deep Admin State
It was never about getting rid of it
This seems like a dig at conservatives instead of a pro bitcoin argument.
Anybody remember the Canadian leftists de-banking the truckers?
Everyone needs bitcoin.
And leftism is retarded.
Play stupid games, win stupid prices. #Bitcoin
#Bitcoin.... this.
Also totally predictable they run to another social media ☺️
Hmm, as much as the media loathes Trump, why hasn’t a single other outlet covered this? Who is the new republic lmao
Of course as a principle that’s messed up, but something’s weird about the fact nobody else has called it out when they hate the guy so much.
Disregard my other comment I’m finding more sources for it now. Weird I had to specifically search frozen funds instead of just habitat for humanity news articles.
Lefties had the chance to embrace bitcoin before needing to hoard it.
Now they wouldn’t be bitching about oceans boiling anymore, I guess xD
False Equivalency. Time to catch up. One group was debanked for actual money laundering via NGOs while the other was debanked for excersising their first amendment rights. Its ironic that our great hero nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhx6mmnw3ezuur4vgkhjsen would repost this given his track record to stifle free speech on twitter.
I agree with the equivalency part. However we can’t assume nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3vamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwpexjmtpdshxuet5uncanx ‘s motivations. Maybe he likes people to use bitcoin, regardless of what the incentive for it is? We just don’t know.
But like how about we don’t use banking as a weapon. Let them get convicted of money laundering otherwise it’s just politicians getting to decide who to debank. So insane people defend this shit
If you didn’t like the idea of democrats doing it to their opponents, you shouldn’t enjoy the idea of Trump doing so either.
People with power would always use it to their advantage.
Putting "your" person in office is a false solution.
The solution is to take away power from government.
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Live by the sword...
I say this as someone who works for a very politically exposed govt and defense contractor. Every paycheck is part grift. If you rely on govt guns to collect, you need to be ready to be cut off at any moment at best, or have them pointed at you at worst.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind , can’t believe how fast they’re becoming the problem they were fighting against
Actions have consequences. Corruption needs to be rooted out; otherwise, we end up with a rotten system like we currently have.
I don’t want my tax dollars going to NGOs or other groups that have no business in getting that money.
At least we don’t have to argue „bitcoin has no use case!“ anymore.
I was predicting this to friends and they said „well, don’t be so dystopian.“