Intermittent Fasting…good or bad?
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It sounds great but as everything great, it is just for a few. I can’t do it myself for more than two days.
Longer than a day = fasting, not intermittent fasting
But you don’t do intermittent fasting for just a day right?
I understand it to be limiting when you eat to a certain window each day. I’m not super familiar, but that’s my understanding.
Like only eating between 11-7 each day…something like that.
I do it every single day for at least 14 hours. Some days 16, 18, or 20 hours. Once every other month I do a classic water fast for 3 to 4 days, thats 72 to 96 hours of fasting.
Awesome, I really appreciate you sharing! I’m toying with a 16 hour daily, eating in an 8 hour window…but complete newbie to the idea…
And I wanna say thanks for the zap! I appreciate it a lot! ❤️ oh and when I started I could berely go through 14 hours of fasting, it took me years to manage a 20 hour fast and even more years to reach my first 3-day-long fast.
Yeah I just need to keep trying and manage the mentality.
Thanks for sharing 🫡
That is amazing. Was it hard to adapt to it? Really wanted to manage it at easy
Oh it was very hard at the beginning. Even just 14 hours was truly hard to reach. I felt weak and my stomach 'burned' a bit. Took some years for my body to adapt. I understand it's easier for some people, harder for others.
That’s what I’m interested in hearing…if you actually change the way you eat long term to IF, I’m guessing you adapt to it (and hopefully) feel better overall.
Oh yeah, today it's no effort at all! It has become something as natural for me as breathing. I feel zero hunger before 3PM, and I exercise with moderate to high intensity every other day with zero weakness or lightheadedness.
I'm usually in the 16 hr range...sometimes 18. Mostly carnivore with focus on meat, dairy, berries, honey, and some nuts and chocolate. Will occasionally do vegetables but they just aren't necessary. Hard NO on grains, sugar and seed oils.
Wow, congrats! you surely are healthier than me! I tend to eat a lot of junk food 😅 I love them burgers and some sweets too 😣
I love burgers, too...but it is pretty much just the meat and cheese...with sour cream, believe it or not.
I thought I was healthy my entire life...didn't think I was overweight other than some love handles. Lifted multiple times per week, did sports (tennis exclusively now but used to include judo), ate the Doctor recommended diet.
Weighed between 185-208 lbs on a 5'-8" frame.
Changed my eating habits around 2018. Now weigh about 165 lbs with a 10-12% body fat composition. Still keep up the same activity level but have a lot better energy, no inflammation causing joints to throb, etc.
I'm 55 yrs old, so you can teach old dog new tricks.
Before spending multiple hours/day reading/listening all-things Bitcoin...I was spending multiple hours/day reading/listening all-things Health & Wellness, nutrition. In fact, my Bitcoin journey started when I heard Saife speaking on a CarnivoreMD (Fundamental Health) podcast.
Woah! That's quite the achievement! Congrats!! Im 5'7" and never weighed more than 150 lbs so I guess I've had a much easier time than you did. But I also have been doing intermittent fasting since I was 18(30 now), I think that's the main reason my weight never went higher than 150lbs even though I always ate whatever I liked.
Good point - I think I could have saved myself from 3 shoulder surgeries if I would have had a more anti-inflammatory diet like you did. Osteo-arthritis basically destroyed the cartilage in both shoulders...I do a decent amount of collagen/glycine supplementation now, but it was the elimination of food choices that turned the corner.
That is absolutely gold, so grateful for you sharing this with us ser 🫡
So…is this pretty much the Keto thing…or is Carnivore different. And if it’s too difficult to explain, feel free to tell me to Do My Own Research…I won’t be offended.
What got me started 5 years ago was me offering a dessert to my oldest adult daughter and she said "we can't, we are doing keto".
I said "what the hell is keto".
That lead me to read Keto Reset Diet by Mark Sisson. Which lead me to Primal Endurance...then Primal Blueprint. After reading that, I became a Primal Health Coach. What they said made so much sense, and I'd suggest skipping straight to Primal Blueprint.
Of course, then I started the firehose on a lot of the thought leaders in the space: Mark Sisson, Jason Fung, Robb Wolf, Ken Berry...Paul Saladino was an up-and-comer - really in your face about carnivore like Shawn Baker - and I appreciated the greater detail he provided in his podcasts. He and Baker got me interested in going full carnivore.
Baker has remained a carnivore, but Saladino has moved to more "Animal Based". I'm anti-FB, but I do still use Instagram to follow some of these folks...and share health and wellness as well as tennis content. Saladino has some nice video shorts on Instagram where he packs a lot of knowledge or dispels myths. He's worth the follow over there (or at least search his content). He also wrote the Carnivore Code.
- Keto is pretty strict about ketosis...will keep you to 20-30g of carbs/day.
- Paleo is pretty much whole foods that your paleo ancestors would eat...so no grains or anything farmed...but meat, seeds, nuts, berries, etc.
- Primal is a more relaxed Paleo in my opinion
- Carnivore...from the strictest standpoint...is meat and salt! I also think it is the BEST elimination diet. Go carnivore for 2-4 weeks, then slowly introduce 1-2 foods and judge how you feel/sleep/triggers for inflammation or auto-immune issues. Rinse...repeat.
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Thanks so much for all of this, so incredibly helpful!
⚡️’d because this is awesome!!!!
Thanks - glad you got value out of it. If you just follow the common sense "10 Laws of the Primal Blueprint" overall health will improve noticeably unless you were already paleo/carnivore/etc. Actually - just take out grains and seed oils (including the seed oils in virtually all processed foods in the grocery aisles...vs the whole foods on the outskirts) and watch the improvement.
Stick to olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, butter, ghee, lard, tallow, etc.
I literally eat slivers of butter while I'm cooking.
I’ve really gotten into Omaha Steaks lately. When you stack coupons…it’s not too bad, still expensive but the best steaks I’ve ever had.
Best part, I cook them EXACTLY how I like them, and I eat them in the company of my 4 favorite people in the world, and am not expected to tip 22% when I’m done.
I’ve fallen in love with my grill. 🥩
And, pretty much only use olive oil…gonna try avocado oil, got a buddy that swears by it.
Did I mention I like butter…umm, a lot?
Go avocado or coconut oil for higher heat cooking.
I started “shaking your rancher’s” hand within the last year. Split a 1/2 cow with my youngest daughter…we also split a lamb.
Getting a 1/2 just for the wife and me at the end of this month, another lamb, and possibly a pig.
Did I mention we were carnivores?🥩
THIS IS THE WAY
Certainly not looking to argue terms. I’ll take it you’re not a fan.
I’m a fan, just not good at skipping breakfast 3 days in a roll 😅
I have been doing it for more than a decade and my blood sugar and cholesterol are always at healthy levels even though I eat a lot of sweets and junk food. Also, my BMI never goes above 25. I love it!
Nice! Any chance you’d be willing to share your timeframes?
Sure. You could say I average at 18 hours fasting/6hours eating. I wake up around 7AM and my eating window is from 3PM to 9PM.
bad.
eat when you are hungry
do not eat when you are not hungry
eat only real food directly from the source
do not eat any processed food
I definitely feel the second part! Appreciate the feedback! Truly!
good, but sometimes I cheat having a bulletproof coffee in the morning
Buttered coffee won't take your body out of ketosis, so it's not really cheating.
If I ate earlier the night before (6p-ish), and I know I'm going to be out several hours playing/teaching tennis and not back until maybe 1-2p, I'll do a bulletproof to tide me over. The key is to be flexible so that your body is always adapting and is comfortable switching modes between burning fat, ketones...or even carbs.
ngl a bit insulted you didn’t ask me first 😂
Please…I’m all ears and taking lots of help!!!!
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i do do it…unintentionally during week stretches though…
My son worked an 8 hour clinical at the Children’s hospital today…and informed me that caused him a 10 hour fast, so I get why you do it! WORK!!!!!
I did it as a resident (well more forced due to work), but ended up dropping a ton of weight AFTER I stopped mostly bc I stopped eating like shit.
Last article I saw didn’t really show much of a benefit, but have also read the contrary. Everyone is different and metabolism as well. I’ve had some colleagues that swear by it, but if we’re being reeeeeeeally honest it’s probably more about what/how much is being thrown down the hatch more than 8/16, 10/14, etc.
Totally agree! For me…when I do it I’m way more focused on what goes down the hatch (because of intentionality) and I also tend not to snack…I save my hunger for my 2 meals. Combine that with eating more whole foods, I’m thinking I might have something. But I agree with what you’re saying.
Whats the minimum number of hours required to do intermittent fasting?
Trying to do 16 hours a day (eating 8)…isn’t too bad right now honestly. And I’m trying to eat Whole Foods when I eat. Nothing much more than that yet.
Oh but I did. Remember the moment too.
Hey, Hall, you wanna make a quadrillion euros I go.
- why, hall goes snorting a railway station.
- sucks to be poor I retort.
Good, almost 2 weeks in eating once a day
How you liking it?
Good, you? Lost maybe 6-8 lbs in a week and a half. Takes a lot of discipline and coffee to get through the day
Love it. So convenient. Less time eating, meal prepping, cleaning. Been doing IF for over a year, Mon to Fri. You get used to not eating.