Want to be strong and masculine? Be polite and kind to women.
Discussion
Yes π
But not too nice, we don't want to finish last.
Ever tried to politely tell the same to women?
"Want to be docile and feminine? Be humble and kind to men."
See how they react.
As a strong man, I can take insults from a woman.
Absolutely you should be able to take insults from women, but when they finally land on a man that doesnβt. Well π€·π»ββοΈ
Even the strongest get scars from insults.
I don't care about gender ... the world would be a better place if we were just respectful and help people when they need us
You may treat people the same and that's commendable, but many here do not.
I think we can change that together, but there will always be trolls
Absolutely. Trolls have always existed. Mute, ignore, and move on. Zap the positivity.
Done!
Or try ratio-ing by zap-ing the victim with a lot of amount of sats.
Anything is better than nothing.
We have to educate women to mute, tho. They often feel obligated to "be nice and friendly" and muting seems mean.
All of the "free speech" and "anti-censorship" rhetoric on here wears down their sense of self-preservation. They feel obliged to let anyone say anything.
it's not sexist to say that women are more liable to tolerate bullshit and end up in a bad situation because they don't want to accept the red flags and the danger signal because other reasons (usually conditioning)
i think that a social norm about women being trained in self defense both mental and physical would be a very important part of a corruption-resistant society - and it's really just a matter of a few good women stepping up and saying it to their peers enough...
sorry, not sorry, but women are more likely to seek to conform to the expectations they are hearing, so don't be so tame and shy... be nice but tell the girls to punch them back
I didn't say that was sexism. I said it was sexism to suggest women shouldn't use Nostr protocol and no one should develop tools to help them curate their feed and control access to their own data.
All the "go back to Instagram" "repeal the 19th Amendment" crap.
Not the least because it's complete nonsense to suggest that client development is over or that all clients have to be Twitter clones. I just helped some ladies find the private groups from Coracle, yesterday. There, problem solved.
It's also often the case that our male frens don't even see the stuff we're getting upset about because they've already muted the person we're arguing with. Ironic. π
yeah, it's gonna take some female leadership on this one... and probably there is good reason to think that there should be at least one or a few clients that focus on making it smooth, and putting the leaders front and center so they walk down the right track instead of winding up in a pileon of incels and perverts and crazymfs
Oh!
Yup. I'm sure that's the case lately.
I have no problem muting some random spouting stupid hateful shit. what hurts is when a person that you had cool interactions with turns out to be a bad egg.
it's like, damn dude, you were cool. I liked you. why you gotta be a racist/misogynist/transphobe/pineapple on pizza hater/etc?
Having this happen enough times that I no longer feel confident recommending my following list to people even though I extensively vet everyone before following them.
One time someone turned literally the same hour I did that π and another time it was someone I had come to really trust and admire.
Itβs sad stuff
super sad πππ
What is up with the π Nazis, fr? Automatic mute and report.
I often just put those in "mute time-out" because they're sometimes just ranting and saying stuff they're probably going to regret later, when they calm down. Autistic meltdown or something.
But some come out of time-out days later and are back in 10 minutes later. π Like, can you not have a normal convo for 10 friggin minutes? π€¦ββοΈ
It is not commendable it should be the standard my friend π
Good men are good to women.
Good men are also strong and masculine. Not all men are good men.
Absolutely. I wonder if they can imagine how they'd feel if someone talked like that to their grandmother, mother, sister, wife, or daughter? Maybe they have no loving women in their lives. It shows.
Yes I think the men you are referring to don't have any healthy relationships.
Who are you to judge?
Do your grandmother, mother, sister, wife or daughter talk like that to strangers? Like Marie talked to that guy?
She created this whole mess, sorry. She didn't back off, she hijacked his thread, insulted him, and then proceeded to organize a dogpiling session. Not cool.
Do the women in your family do that kind of shit? If so, excuse me, but they will reap what they sow.
She had the mute button available to her for the entire time. She chose poorly. Guess what? Consequences, bitch.
Without being overly accommodative.
Sure. At some point you just remove yourself from the situation.
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And I guess a bit of Muay Thai doesnβt hurt as well.
Did we lose more lady users this week?
Yes TheNoshole
And the women of nostr lied about her reason for leaving to blame men
Nope
Did you read her post? Lol
Yes and I also talked to her on telegram.
Did you see all the posts blaming men by other women and even the men simped in and joined ....and it wasnt even related to what happened...all assumptions...and blame for nothing
I did. We get crap on a daily basis on here. Reach out and ask women here.
How is that unique to nostr? That will happen everywhere and you will never be safe. People are people.
Nostr has mute button that solves the problem
I understand that and how it works but inappropriate behavior should be called out so it is no longer acceptable. That is all we want. If as a male you see this call it out.
Why ? To create more drama with simps and their followers ?
A simple mute makes it disappear. A flame war with peers adds more gas to the fire. And people will blindly take sides and not worry about the truth
Because we shouldnβt have to put up with it. We are tired of smiling and shrugging it off.
You shouldn't? But men should?
Acceptable by whom?
Some "authority" of sorts?? π€ I am curious now.
Shut up, lol.
Wow that sucks can you tag the note that made it happen. Sad this keeps happening.
Wait wait theres more to the story. The women of nostr lied and blamed men but that wasnt the real reason
I don't know the exact note, this guy was being really disrespectful to her and Marie the other day though.
Rough seems like there is some nut jobs on Nostr that constantly like to harrass.
It was mutual. The guy was simply being egalitarian with and not intimidated by her harassing (Marie hijacked his thread to stir shit).
Marie called Noshole for a dogpiling session. Didn't work. Instead Noshole regretted the whole situation, a toxic situation, created by Marie.
I have to see yet an apology from Marie. Unlikely. She created this whole mess.
I just saw this note today...
Yes but it's not just that. It's a trend that's been going on for a long while.
In my time here I've noticed that when men talk shit and get called out for it, they roll with it and either apologize or double down.
When the same happens to women, they can't handle it and they tuck and run.
Maybe don't talk shit and be kind?
You missed my point but thats oK
I chose not to acknowledge your sexist comment and chose to offer a better solution.
What, that women do not also talk shit at times?
I have never seen that. Normally is a toxic asshole male that they need to defend themselves against.
I've seen it and I've been here about as long as you. One lady called the men disagreeing with noshole "Limped dicked men who wanted to have a sausage party", whatever the hell that is.
Men argue differently than women. When they can't win by logic they will burst into tears, etc. And there is no way there can be any social interaction without heated debate. IMHO the ladies of nostr need thicker skins and I don't see it as necessarily and male/female issue. Hell, half the time I have no idea which gender I am interacting with here anyway and should feel free to express my opinion as I like without having to walk on eggshells at the risk of offending someone.
That probably can and does happen. However, that doesn't seem to reflect the conversation I followed from yesterday. All I saw was men acting like men that I wouldn't ever want around any of the women in my life.
I was raised differently. In my house, my father taught me to defend and respect women. I try to have debates without being mean. I just didn't see any of that yesterday.
Decency has nothing to do with gender
I donβt understand how the interaction from yesterday became a gender issue
Treat people as individuals
I agree with you about defending women, however most of the women I have contact with are quite capable of defending themselves.
Anyway, not sure why you called my comment "sexist" as that is hardly me. But this is an example of the different way men and women discuss or argue. We settled this. A woman might have runned oft crying misogyny.
I have bad news for you - Derek is kind of retarded.
Lady weighing in on this. The strength of actual women is compassion, emotion, being able to embrace all that chaos in a crisis. The strength of actual men is courage, integrity, focus, ability to be objective. Pro-tip: focus on the good qualities of your person, in whatever relationship, and watch the good qualities grow.
But you are kind of retarded, to be honest.
IT SEEMS #NOSTR HAS BEEN INVADED BY WOMAN HATING HOMOSEXUALS
THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO YOUR VAGINA JEALOUSY
THATS JUST TALK TO OTHER MEN ONLY
WOMEN BEING BULLIED BY SO CALLED GROWN MENβ¦β¦ WHAT ON EARTH IS WRONG WITH YOU
βBUT A WOMAN CALLED ME A NASTY NAMEβ
OH CRY HARDER YOU WEIRD TINY LITTLE BOY
DO YOU HAVE TO RETALIATE? NO
IS IT MAKING U CRY? HOPE SO
MAYBE U WANT TO COMPETE IN WOMANS SPORT AND COMPLAIN WHEN THEY SAY YOURE NOT A REAL WOMAN
OUR WOMAN ARE SACRED
YOU NOT SO MUCH
YOULL FIND YOURSELF A NICE HUSBAND IF YOU KEEP THIS UP
βBUT THEYRE OUT OF HANDβ
JUST DECLARE WAR AND GET IT OVER WITHβ¦. YOULL BE DISCARDED FROM BOTH SIDES WITH NOTHING BUT YOUR TINY BOYHOOD IN YOUR HANDS
YOURE ACTING LIKE YOU WANT MEN ONLYβ¦β¦ THATS A HOMOSEXUAL THING
AND THERE IS BETTER PLACES FOR SEXUAL GATHERINGS THAN HERE
Its true, if its another woman women turn vicious.
Men, well most, tend to find a solution to avoid a scene.
Yea I been following. Im sad to see it continuing. I got pay more attention and call it out don't really know what else can be done these people can spin up new accounts so easily. Clearly are losers to begin with so they have unlimited time to keep harrasing.
Nostr is designed to be a spammers paradise
A public notepad file
That's the drawback of a decentralized open network. Spamming is easy and for free.
That will be changing fast. Relays are gaining more administrative controls
How can you know this at scale?
I would even dare to say that with all π«‘
how about just be polite and kind to everyone?
But that doesn't earn you politically correct good boy points.
Itβs a shame. We are all just HUMANS. Canβt we just treat eachother with the same respect you would like to be treated with? Itβs sad that this whole problem isnβt any more complex than something that simple. π€·ββοΈπ«ΆβοΈ
Wonderful statement Derek π«π
I would like to change that:
Be polite and kind to every human being.
won't always make it, but I'm working on myself to achieve this goal.
Thank you. Right now on Nostr, a lot of women need our support to show that we don't want a toxic community and that toxic behavior is not okay. Be kind to everyone, but also be aware when a group of people needs more attention then others.
nice one-dimensional pre-philosophy, post-fall muh-feelz #femposting but shit just aint that simple... for those of us who want our children to live in a functional civilization at least.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AsTkgVaRtqUD/
#growup
Thanks for proving my point. Enjoy.
when you didnt even try to grok the counter-point, failed to observe conscientious reference which also made considerable points on the serious issue, and want to pretend like you are really invested in the issue... you should:
A: make nonsensical comment about "proving my point" ..... ahhhh, wut!?
B:
#coward
Really? All women? Some women are terrible people should I be polite and kind to them too? Hilary Clinton for example.
It's hilarious because no one gives a rats ass when men are mistreated yet you think some bs post is gonna get all the men to be nicer even when 99% are never payed attention to in any shape or form.
The opposite of that statement is, 'Want to be weak and feminine? Be rude and unkind to men.'
Bingo!
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