The amount of millennial couples I know who have broken up and are now doing dog visitation or sharing dog custody is just…

Why in the actual fuck are people treating dogs like human babies?

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

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Replacement therapy for not having real kids, a fiat construct

Yeah it’s fucking bizarre

You know the answer to this. These sound like people with much love to give but they were robbed of the means to provide.

These people all do well financially, they’re just stuck in this weird delusion.

It’s endemic and insane. Kids > dogs

FIFY: kids >> dogs

Do you own a dog?

Fur babies are our kids 😂

Yep I own a dog

Operable word. Own.

You don’t own your child.

Actually my dog owns me

What tricks does it have you do?

Fetch the ball, and he takes me on walks

You should change your name to Fetch Marie.

🤔

Fiat made having kids too high a cost. Plus you get in trouble for putting kids in cages when you want to go to the bar. It’s okay and encouraged to cage dogs. 🫡

Because a dog doesn't require a human to stop being selfish, whereas a child does. They substitute having babies with pets because it's way more limited than the real thing.

I'm pretty sure they're the ones taking the crazy pills though. You're one of the sane ones!

i have a friend that the last item in their divorce is dog custody. the dog is like 14...like you cant just decide it lives out its last few months with one of you? it has to be in the legal doc? insanity

Late stage empire vibes. Like Nero marrying his horse

I needed this

Clowns

Bro I saw a car the other day with the bumper sticker "Dog Grandma". What the actual fuck man. You are just a lady with a dog, and the dog is a parent. Your dog is achieving more than you have, and you celebrate with a bumper sticker LOL

If a person’s main source of emotional fulfillment is their dog, it usually points to unresolved emotional issues.

It keeps going too. Every single woman (like all of them) in their 30s has a dog because they couldn’t find someone in their 20s to have a baby with and now they are ‘dog moms’ that cook for their dogs and pick up their shit.

It’s fucking wild and really sad.

WOMEN

People who elevate animals to the equivalence of humans or above humans ,(in some corners of our society )Is a clear sign of the depravity and deviancy of those people. Those same people typically ,show more compassion and love towards an animal,than a human being.

Lol, wait until you see videos with things like https://a.co/d/aJVqAbZ

I know too many millennial couples who have decided they aren’t going to have kids. Definitely related to your observation.

My late grandmother made pets stay outside. The horror…

I had a dog as a kid. He lived outside, like real dogs do.

Why do you think people should treat dogs like inanimate objects?

They are living creatures

They’re dogs. You should treat them like dogs.

People get desperate to fill the void. Very strange way to cope

Honestly, the dog is probably the most mature member of the relationship, and should file for emancipation

Sometimes it's hard being the sane one in a crazy world... but there are still plenty of who remember better times when crazy wasn't the norm.

I am laughing to myself as I imagine reading the comments on this post had it been made on X.

I should post it on x lol 😂

I like most dogs I meet. Can’t say the same about most people I meet.

You like dogs because people created them to be like able

Excellent point!

Wow. Thanks!

They are people who shouldn't have kids.

Pretty much everyone should have kids. With very rare exceptions

I disagree with this statement and agree with nostr:npub1hgvtv4zn2l8l3ef34n87r4sf5s00xq3lhgr3mvwt7kn8gjxpjprqc89jnv

I have seen many folks in the dog parent (to this degree) category and they are people who would be unable to put themselves and their wants aside to raise healthy, functioning children. I'd prefer they not taint the gene pool for my kid and any grandchildren I may have.

Opinions are like assholes and everyone has one, this is mine.

Also, I have a spoiled dog that I tell her she's mommy's girl. She's a great dog, but I wouldn't set up a custody agreement should my husband and I get divorced. Again , opinions and assholes...

There’s no such thing as a dog parent

But there is mental illness.

True lol

😂 thanks for the sats and the conversation.

I will sneak that dog away in the night.

You will try.

I understand where you are coming from, but just because a child comes from dysfunctional parents does not mean they themselves will follow the same route and could potentially contribute greatly to society- like Salvador Dali and Ben Franklin. And a child from the best parents ever could become a monster like Jeffrey Epstein, and Ted Bundy.

I personally wouldn't want a child to start off with "bad" parents, but what defines bad and good is ambiguous and saying certain people shouldn't have children can become a dangerous argument. That's just my asshole. 😂

Very true all of this, and I'd never tell someone to have or not have a child. It's none of my business. Your asshole makes a good point 😂

Haha thank you 😂

There’s nothing to disagree with. This is just the way things work.

It's the nature of reality.

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Some aren’t fit for it. Raising kids is a serious job.

99% of people should have kids

It definitely changes how you experience live and make decisions.

In the Netherlands we had a president who has no kids and clearly doesn’t care about the future. He lied, made idiotic decisions for years and degraded the country insanely. This dude now is the secretary general of the NATO. A very dangerous position for a lying piece of sh*t imo. I don’t trust him for anything he does.

If this guy would have had kids, I think he would have made other choices in life, for the better.

True, at least I would hope so. It's interesting to hear some people with kids talk about the world they are leaving to them. I've been planning to have kids for a very long time, and a huge reason I write books is so that my kids and descendants will know me and learn the hard won lessons I've sussed out over my decades of adventures. My wife and I are expecting our first baby this September.

Wow, congrats! That’s something to look out for. 🤩And great that you’re writing off the hard worn lessons 🔥

mission accomplished 💪🏽

When it's $20k per kid, only for married couples.

We're in to have 7.

The exception to the rule does not negate the rule.

having kids fixes you

True. Who wants to become Bill Mare, who is single and childless? No one in their right mind. It shows that he's single and childless in his immaturity, and he's made his audience his wife and kids presumably.

It's just a symptom of how lost we as a society have become.

wienerdog

I noticed exactly the same. Driving around with bicycles and a dog on it instead of kids give me headaches.

Replacing an emotional void with children or dogs doesn’t end well. Too many emotionally immature adults out there with neglected children who end up self-parenting themselves. My mom has an ngo that helps single moms and the stories of neglected children are so traumatising. Maybe work on inner peace and stability first. When you are whole, everything becomes a privilege and joy - your partner, children, animals.

I think people should be more upset about why there are so many broken relationships and broken families, compared to dogs. But it's also interesting to observe what people value.

I was an emotionally neglected child. Let me tell you the only thing that heals it is having your own kids.

Having kids and raising them well are two very different things. You seem like someone who knows the difference and is passionate about being a good father. Wishing you well. Wouldn't hurt not to pick on dog lovers on a weekend :) If you’re feeling fiery, there are always oppressive governments globally or bad people to take on instead.

He didn't pick on dog lovers, he picked on people who trade their dogs like kids.

I haven't heard it put this way before. Interesting take.

Because they don't have kids, but they have a hole in their soul that wants kids, so they substitute dogs for kids, like substituting living together for marriage, and pretend their dog is a kid, and form unhealthy and dysfunctional attachments to their dog, so naturally, split custody makes sense to these insane people.

It reminds me of women who never became mothers, and have the unmet need to mother children, so they get into government to "mother" the electorate.

Sounds like someone who has never bonded with an animal.

You’re trying to shame me for being normal? lol

It gets weirder and weirder every day under fiat.

You’re trying to shame childless people. What’s the point.

It’s not normal to be childless

Normal: conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected. Sounds pretty fiat brained to me.

You believe it’s “fiat” for our species to survive and reproduce? lol

Your desire for things to remain normal is fiat brain.

My desire for our species to continue existing you mean. Yes how very fiat of me lol

You need a dog Hodl 😂

Have one. He’s chill. Were buds.

I’m kidding, it’s far from normal to be childless

your proselytizing can get grating b/c you harp on the child thing incessantly. almost like you’re trying to convince yourself. almost.

I just think most people including yourself aren’t aware of how bad the population collapse data is.

I think I get the enormity of the problem - if that’s your hill, preach away homie

I have many hills

the psyop runs deep

What psyop? I was calling him out for how he was shaming childless people to make his point. It’s unnecessary.

the psyop to not have kids lol

That has nothing to do with what I was saying.

I was in a 10 year relationship, it probably only should’ve lasted five years, but we stayed together primarily because we shared a dog.

In retrospect, I should’ve left that relationship much sooner, but when I started dating her, neither one of us wanted kids.

As an only child, my dog was the first time that I learned to love something more than myself, and now I’m a very proud father.

I completely understand this phenomenon, because I lived it. Time to perspective, and I’m grateful I found my way.

At this point, since my daughter arrived, I have basically given them up, but I’ll never let him go… nostr:note1msdp5hl4md044sdfzsktaz06jwyerq4dsmawgt0x0vp9rmzn5vxquk28h3

Not wanting kids is like not wanting to be healthy or lose weight. Just because you don't want it doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.

Soon as I had a kid, I see where I went wrong, and wish I did it 10+ years ago.

I would have grown up much sooner.

This has been the most insane stretch of my life, but I treasure every fucking second of it.

Lol my brother and his ex are doing this, i did not know it was a thing

I get the frustration—dogs aren’t kids, but people are getting way too attached. It’s like they’re projecting human emotions onto pets, which feels a bit unhinged to me. I like animals too, but I don’t see them as humans.

This doesn’t happen in my part of Europe. Like, at all, haven’t seen this. People are generally still sane about most things if compared to the rest of the West. My hope is that we’ll just end up skipping that phase.

Also, don’t care too much about whatever that is that people who play-pretend being adults do.

It’s a jungle out there

Disorder and confusion everywhere.

Treating animals like humans is a satanic shit!

Why are you so concerned with other people caring about animals? Is it because deep down you know you pay people to torture and murder animals on a daily basis and are trying to cope?

Wut

That is a wild comment.

The next step is to be mandatory to send those pet to school.

dont like dogs for that reason

the reactions of people meeting the dog

just sucks

Lol. I'm a dog owner and I really don't like coming across othr dog owners on walks. I'm the most anti social dog owner in history for this reason 🤣

great

The ruling class want to decimate global population. One of the ways they're using is reducing natality by pushing abortion, rising taxes to families, financing lgbti communities...

Thus, as parentship in inherent to human kind, dogs come as a substitute for children for those who bought that policy.

People today think "doghouse" is a idiom and don't realize it used to be the same way to treat them.

Who cares?

Me

Things you don’t understand aren’t necessarily always a symptom of societal degradation. It’d be wise to consider the possibility that other people can derive joy and meaning in ways you don’t.

Sure but this phenomenon is straight up societal degradation

Anyone that wants to see society progress and not regress....

Sexual trauma.

Pets are soooo important...then you have kids, and the proper hierarchy is restored.

My dog is great, but if there's a house fire it's kids, wife and a sincere "God speed" to doggo 🫡

Absolutely. You double back for the dog. He’s a trusted companion and buddy but he’s ultimately a replaceable member of the family.

10000%

agreed, mostly, he is not replaceable though will never have one like him again

At least it's sincere. 😂

LoL, exactly! It's very sincere. I really like my dog! (just you know, not THAT much) 😂

Agreed. I have 2 dogs but compared to my REAL family, they might as well be house plants in an emergency.

Flood it again

The dog-human bond is stronger than many people realize.

Nah this behavior is just a sad pathetic simulacrum of having a real marriage and a real child.

We live in a society where half of all marriages end in divorce now. I know someone who shares custody of both a dog and a kid with two different exes.

It’s actually not true that half of all marriages end in divorce. That stat is skewed by people who get married and divorced multiple times. It’s probably about 30%.

You kind of took the word right out of my mouth.

Maybe for people that don't have anything more meaningful in life than their dog... That's sad.

stop feeding the dog tell me how strong the bond is

The dog is using you for food and giving you what you need and appearance of loyalty 

Did you not get affection as a child?

great logical comeback.

I simply don’t trust people who don’t love dogs.

a real dog gives much more than the appearance of loyalty. This guy we lost to cancer recently would have undoubtedly died to defend my kids, wife or me. You've obviously never had a proper dog. When he found mice under the snow he would bring them to us. I feel bad for you that you've never had a real bond with a real dog.

Not that he is more important than my kids or wife in anyway but I would rather have him than 95% of the humans I've met. 100% unconditional loyalty...

Wife would get nostr:npub138y5h8asc895pxdndrdnx4mgnz5aq55zmy2aerhfad2zlagq0a5qw3aszc if we ever split up, not even a question. I would still have full rights to his nostr account though.

Just part of the clown world we live in.

They don’t listen to country music so they don’t know loosing the dog is part of the song😂

Who else is going to lick peanut butter off my balls?

LMAO

The best is when you hear two grown adults that have no kids complain about how hard life is or how hard it is to pay bills, have savings etc. It’s like, we got 3 kids over here you have no idea what struggle is, not even close.

(internal chuckles)

Marketing mostly and societal norms shifting. I just heard someone talk about spending thousands on medicine for their dog. People aren’t having children young or are lonely and they latently love spending money

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I get your point about the current situation, but I want to remind you that the dog has been man’s best friend since the times of hard money.

I love dogs. I’m not saying don’t own a dog. Just saying it’s not a baby.

... It's very easy to explain ;)

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