Forgive the ignorant question, but what’s the best way to follow news here? Do I create lists? Which functions are the best to use?
Discussion
Nostr Files....
In the #damus product roadmap we have
1) user lists, and
2) follow hashtag features.
What would be your preference to get first?
Personally I’d reverse that order to start with hashtags; which would be a great source to identify relevant users to follow.
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To be clear you can search for hashtags on #damus.
For new user discovery try:
#introductions
#grownostr
#plebchain
Thx! And is a great feature. Also use on iris.to
The other ‘intro yourself’ tags don’t usually surface the topics I’d be interested in. Granted, I could do a better job tagging on my own posts.
Interestingly, #BlueSky is explicitly avoiding building hashtags and relying on natural language search at the moment. If you think about what IG posts turned into (a hashtag hellscape), including them does propose a particular user behavior.
Yes search needs to improve, and is on roadmap. Try using nos.today for search.
You can search for the topics you are interested in without hashtags there.
I prefer lists first, I follow a bunch of people that probably use nostr very little, but when they do, I want to see what they post separate from the feed
Is this a group of friends, or simply a list of people you know?
The latter. I mean, I'd like groups, too, but that's not quite what I'm describing. On Twitter I have a list of infrequent, high signal accounts I don't want to miss. Well, there's also friends who I don't want to miss either.
🤙 what do you think of this
Hmm... Looks neat, but I'm not sure I would use it as much as a list. Maybe if I selected a list, it would also switch relay sets, that might be more useful.
We think NIP-51 (lists) should take priority
$BITF cashtags
I’m trying to figure that out too. I thought I’d start following you and see who you’re interacting with and go from there.
I'm new too. Try this maybe.
Now we are talking
Start following good Profiles that hopefully will lead you to them.
I suggest you to follow #[2] and look in his "follows" list and start following them. Ofc I am #Bitcoin biased.
Which app are you using? There are lots of different app choices.
I’m on Damus
This is a list. Scroll down to the clients. I've been using Damus also as well as Iris on my browser. https://github.com/aljazceru/awesome-nostr
Thanks for asking these questions Matt. I’ll follow along
smooth app too
thanks for pointing to the platform - wouldn't have found it without your email saying yes this is you
You’re rather on NOSTR (Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays). NOSTR is an open protocol, designed to create a censorship-resistant social network.
There’re 2 components: clients and relays. Each user runs a client. Anyone can run a relay.
Clients fetch data from relays of their choice and publish data to other relays of their choice.
Everybody runs a client. It can be a native client, a web client, etc.
Damus happens to be a client for iOS/MacOS, and other people using different clients for their devices OS can access and engage with your Notes/postings on the NOSTR.
List of clients:
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Blog posts can be followed on https://habla.news . Some clients also show them. But habla.news is specfically setup for them.
There are almost no news outlets posting to nostr at this point. There might be relays/bridges that bring them over, and if not we can set some up.
#[2] #[3] #[4] Might have some suggestions for you.
We don't any news sources here, but we do have "accounts" that are essentially RSS feeds of news organizations. You can follow the existing npubs that are setup, or burn your own RSS feed. rsslay.nostr.moe
Gotcha. Okay. It’ll take me a bit… but I’ll learn.
I follow #[5] and #[6] for my tech news here 🤙🏻
One thing I have found out here is this is one of the friendliest platforms you can find. Bitcoin maxi and lightning network tipping is pretty constant. We definitely welcome more news here. (We have some but need more) I follow most of your work, and I appreciate you! 😃💜🤙🫡
I’m not used to social media without constant troll swarms, so it’ll take some getting used to.
Sorry. I can can irritate you if it makes you feel more at home.
What the hell is wrong with you?
Hope that helps.
That’s better, thanks!
The frog was boiling. Takes some getting used to getting a 2nd life in cool water.
Welcome to Nostr!
Hope to see your work here, it’s the only social media I use now!
❤️❤️❤️❤️
Once you get used to Nostr, it hard to go back to traditional social media.
Here there is no algorithms to keep you hooked or engaged, no persuasive psychology design..notes appear in the chronological order.
And people are nice and welcoming 🫂💜
They will come. But that will pave the way for reputation systems and better filtering at the client or relay layer.
You probably won’t get the large engagement you got on Twitter, but everyone who engages will be a real person and nostr is full of the coolest people in the world. Plus you’re gonna get Bitcoin and shakas instead of worthless likes 🤙⚡️
Pardon but new here as well. What guarantees all are real people?
Take my profile for example, i host my verification on my own domain and through Github which is maintained with a cost.
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There are a few bots here, but they’re actually pretty cool. It’s early enough to tell the difference, but I’m sure the bots are coming.
Probably everything is coming. A filter for them, when wanted, would be ideal.
Have you tried nostr.wine’s filter? It works very well. I have a few paid relays and keep my global on paid only.
So new, not familiar with what you mean by filter in this instance on here.
Are you using Damus? I think other clients allow you to filter global too.
Basically, you add some relays like nostr.land and nostr.wine, and you can filter the global feed by only viewing notes submitted to those paid relays.
However, in order for me to see your notes in global, you would have to pay for the relays.
If I follow you (I am) then I will see your notes regardless, because your regular feed pulls from all the relays you’re connected to.
You probably need to add some more relays though. I’m only seeing 4 on your profile. You can visit my profile and just copy my relays.
They make us take these on the daily like a drug test
Makes me wanna convert
Oh you weren’t responding to me 😂 Damus showed me as the first person you were talking to
Happened by chance to start setting up and joining right when you did, and the non-cluttered feed let me join in on what others were telling you, giving me an education on nostr. Very cool. As a non-public figure, social media has felt like an advisory algorithm and a very empty place for for a long time. Here's to the this protocol being better.
For years now I’ve been conflicted about Twitter. The experience was mostly not fun at all, but the functionality was still very high for my job. The manipulation has started to outweigh the benefits by a lot I think.
And a fine job you do sir and very thankful for it. Just catching up on the happenings of the last week, and excited to read your latest on Substack.
Platform scalability is and will always be terrible for the social media end user experience. Most of the issues I see is the lack of real time interaction like we had with IRC. A user shouldn’t be able to jump into a conversation on their lunch break 6 hours later because they see a post they don’t agree with. Users should be forced to respond in real time or lose access to the conversation.
Should have a choice between static and dynamic engagement, but perhaps when the algorithms are completely removed, more of the dynamic is allowed to foster.
The nostr protocol should integrate something that allow Discord-like "channels" - maybe call them doors - tied to public keys. It would be a great integration for dynamic chat rooms and a great harkening back to mIRC. Let the naming convention for channels be whatever is typed between double hashtags, i.e. ##first door## for instance. The user/public key can carry these "doors" or "channels" with them, allow other public keys in, moderate them, remove them, etc.
I’m totally going to agree with you later this week sometime…
This is an interesting thought. I have been thinking a lot about how to use nostr like IRC. We need a nostrChat client...
1. client allows user to invtive npubs starting a chat
2. the user that starts the chat hosts it peer to peer: no relay needed, anyone can be invited
3. everyone that joins the chat is direct connected to the starting user's session (database)
4. database can be cleared after the chat ends, or the session can be passed off to any other user in the chat for them to host it.
Not sure if the protocol supports all that, but it should not be too much to add a nip. My idea of doing this peer to peer keeps from adding cost to the relays. Best way to code this would be an api that could be added to any client.
Hi Matt, hope you are enjoying the morning sun here in LA!!
Each service is going to have its own character. There may be a place for "platforms" like Notes, Locals and Twitter but decentralized services are badly needed.
They came after you hard for Twitter files but don’t hide—come here for the quiet—stay there for the engagement 🤷🏻♂️
Hey Matt, just throwing this out there….a semi-autobiographical book accounting the lead up, revelations and aftermath of your Twitter/Musk experience would make for a very interesting read, and a thoughtful Christmas present 😉
I am right there with you Matt. I have been on twitter a very long time, it is a important source of news, but with the plethora of trolls, bots, and seemingly much more angry people in general. I am always wrestling with the benefit vs reward ratio.
I speak only for myself, as I only have been on Nostr a couple of weeks or so. Here is my personal summary of this platform called Nostr, so far:
1. Very friendly and most try very hard to keep it this way. (I like this a lot) kind of like tribal in a way. This makes it so pleasant to be here.
2. Bitcoin Maxi here. Bitcoin seems to be a primary core here. As well as privacy (somewhat). I realize a lot of folks may not be so crypto freedom focused but this is core here. (I like all the freedom I can get) The lightning network is wonderful and integrated here, which is huge, I just wonder what will happen when the gov. tries to regulate and demand full kyc here. I will watch. (I hope people resist more gov. regulation)
3. News here is lacking big time.. but Nostr is growing very fast I believe, and hopefully it will keep its zen like happiness for a long time. While adding news.
Serious respect to you.
Ça me touche beaucoup je valide avec un Grand A 😍
Hi Sasha,
I am a starter here on Nostr.
But I like it from the very beginning.
For me, the things I need are now available.
Uncensored social media and being my own bank with bitcoin.
This is the revolution I was dreaming of for so many years...
People have trained to trust their silos and truth doesn’t matter to most. I spend a little defending you and TF. People’s arguments and spun descriptions to trash you. They just repeat the same stuff. I’ve been following you off and on since ‘04. Right now your podcast is the only news I follow.
Def remember a few mornings coming down off acid while my roommate and I would take turns reading aloud articles from the exile and the great shark hunt. Ames signed a copy of my roommates book with “stay mean” and I think that fits rn. The paranoid side of me thinks the CIA is gonna dose you with the California Sunshine.
So very true. I keep using it but I feel forced by some social pressure to maintain it. Slowly starting to not give a F 😅
People seem to go on twitter with the intention to pick fights and read things in the least charitable way possible. At one point one could read twitter replies and get some value from them, but nowadays it's just an endless stream of attempts at "sick burns".
I hope you are right , your job is very important for a lot of people
Hi Matt,
same with me.
Just got my other Twitter account suspended because I sent a DM to a person.
I should authenticate my account with a phone number.
No, I will not do that.
Rather switch to Nostr...
So long as you have the great RSS feed and comments section at Substack, I'm 👍
I'm in same position and I totally agree
Great 💜 thoughts. I’d lie to zap ⚡️ you for this but your wallet isn’t setup. Let me know if you need help.
It would be interesting to hear how your onboarding process goes, trying to figure things out in the nostr world.
Virtually zero trolls here so far. Its amazingly friendly, happy, and helpful here. That may change as it grows, but so far so good.
Glad to see you here, Matt.
If it’ll help you adjust I can offer some whataboutism or random attacks 😜
Just sent you a zap of sats. Thanks for all you do.
Matt you suck! Totally fake reporter…. Just kidding. Thank you for being the lightning rod in the TwitterFiles. You should be proud of the role you’ve played so far in the #GreatAwakening
Keep up the good work 👊🏻
You should look into running your own relay and post everything you write to there and multiple other relays like damus. This way you will always have a backup of your own data and can move it somewhere else quickly in case you'll ever need that. Just tell ppl your relay address and they can pull information directly from the source and also from other places 🙂
I don't know how familiar you are with public key cryptography but it can be tempting to think about your private key like a password, BUT YOU SHOULD NOT.
It's actually more like your entire identity because if someone else gets control of it, there is no "authority" to appeal to to regain control of your "account". In fact, you have no account - just the identity conferred by that private key.
You are going to be a target, so before you build a big following which would be painful to have to rebuild from scratch, if you are not an opsec person you might want to get some basic security tips from someone you know who knows their way around (maybe @jack or Ed Snowden).
You’re probably the highest profile journalist currently here. Be the news.
This might be useful? https://habla.news/
I could also see you offering your Substack articles here as well for the same price (or slightly cheaper!).
i clicked on this Habla Mews link and it took me out of the Damus client and on to a web page where most of the news was about Nostr. Hmm…. had an easier time finding sources on Mastodon. also, there’s no indicator under a post showing the number of replies it has gotten, so having to click on every post to see of it’s been commented on is kinda sorta…not fun. will keep experimenting here but for now, very tepid reaction.
you are the news now
Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I would like to see more news here to lessen my reliance on Twitter.
The world is your oystr.
No your right, I deleted Twitter so I’m pretty much in the dark until I go digging for news, would def help to have some source of news
That’s why I kept asking about building a relay to discuss Politics/Geopolitics (finding a healthy way of doing it + dialogue).
I would definitely appreciate advise and any useful tips to make this happen.
It’s a double edged sword tho, politics tends to divide and come from a Biased perspective no matter how hard people try, with nostr being an all inclusive community it could turn some people off, just my 2 sats I could be completely wrong and it could be amazing
Everything is political to someone. Have you ever listened to old ladies arguing about recipes? It gets as intense as a gun control debate.
Politics doesn't always divide. Instead, it's political conformity that does the division and rewarding it with dopamine-fueled social approval only makes polarization worse. Basically, the like and retweet functions are the problem.
It was difficult to not like the comment. But yes, that’s what I was talking about. Maybe just work to generate a space to discuss facts with respect and balance super extreme perspectives. Users should read for the content and not for the like or follow.
That'd be nice, but you'd be betting against human nature. People like to take sides and form teams. Honestly I'm surprised I haven't seen a MAGA or #Resist type on here yet.
First step would be to find a way to remove the heart and retweet functions. It'd remove the dopamine-driven urge to play to the crowd and force people to form their own thoughts instead of hitting a button to regurgitate someone elses
More news is good. The problem is all the news organizations propaganda wont succeed here, so new news is what is needed.
I don't know if you're in the minority, but you aren't alone in the want.
I'm sure a lot of us still endure Twitter (despite the anguish) to follow news feeds which are not yet here. Hope Matt will help us #grownostr in this area.
🙏 #[2]
oh jeez no, that will naturally progress to unbearable meth heads. lol
You can follow RSS feeds here via https://rsslay.nostr.moe/
Oo nice
Totally agreed with Carla! 💜🤙
What is Twitter?
Indeed.
Same. It’ll happen.
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I am not familiar with the protocol nor a programmer and do not know if nostr can be modulated, but would there be any interest in seeing a development where keys can create channels or chatrooms and send certain notes to joined key channel guests, with moderation options and such if desired? Perhaps the channels could be created and represented by text between double hashtags.
We need a news relay for people who wanna read news 🤔🤔
#[4]
Let’s go Bro! You’re it !!
Coracle.social is the only client I’ve seen with a list function.
But that’s what’s exciting about #nostr is that each client can great features separate from others so there will always be a competitor environment for improvement.
How about #[2] ?
こんにちは 👋 btw
you are the news!
Lists nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6
Welcome!
News organizations haven’t caught onto nostr yet because they are too caught up in their own legacy system and propaganda. Nostr would expose their failed business models and lack of integrity.
You’re the news now Matt, we’ll follow you to hear the stories of the day, and zap you for your efforts. Welcome to the future.
Only need here is BTC news. 😂
#[2] is here and now you. Bring us some news!
Maybe we can convince NPR to come on over.
Oh that’s easy, you just have to ask all your news friends to join nostr
If you’re looking for a substack alternative to share stories (with full formatting capabilities), check out https://habla.news
(Created by #[2] )
You can use a browser extension like #[3] to securely log in so you don’t need to expose your nsec
To your original question, #[5] one I follow now
For a #nostr version of Twitter spaces, check out https://nostrnests.com
Created by #[7] and #[8]
We have #[2] and #[3] take your pick
https://www.nos.social/ has lists on their roadmap https://github.com/planetary-social/nos/issues/208#issuecomment-1489298361
Hey Matt, can’t answer your question because I’m even newer than you but just want to say that there are lots of people who appreciate what you do and are doing.
My second day on this platform after once again being locked out of my Twitter account. Had high hopes for Elon musk but man the censorship is insane over there.
Start making us some news plz!
No news necessary… only zaps ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
#[2] is a good place to start
Ask a question and someone will answer you then send you zaps. Way cooler than news ⚡️
Okay, I'll bite. What exactly is pissing off all the people about Bud Light? Are they really so outraged that there's a trans woman in one of their ads? There must be more to it.
I don't drink factory swill, so I guess I've been boycotting for decades, but I really don't get what's up Kid Rock's ass.
#[2]
#[2]
Matt welcome!!! Check out #plebchainradio. The creator of #Nostr and #Damus is on
where can u listen?
https://nostrnests.com/plebchainradio
It’s almost over though
Yeah it’s over but check it out 5:30est every Friday
#[2]
Lots of things still being worked.
Just post news.
It’s all still very rough, honestly. Best to find accounts and build your feed that way.
https://nostr.watch/relays/find
This shows you relays to connect to. Some have a small fee in bitcoin. This is how you connect beyond default relays. I don't think AP or Reuters or any company have accounts.
Welcome! If you want news about what’s going on with #Nostr a team of us put out a daily report/digest each day on the #[3] . We also include relevant news related to Bitcoin and some other items from world news if relevant. Glad to have you here 💜🤙
Glad to see you here! Free speech and truth are unstoppable!
You're looking for a client that supports NIP-51 and I don't think that exists yet.
#[2] 🔥🔥🔥 💯
Following people like #[1] is a good start😂. The lack of traditional news outlets being shoved down your throat is one of the better features here.
Followid
#plebchain
OK, I didn't see this one coming so soon.
#nostrwelcome Matthew, glad to see you here... outside of walled gardens of corporate social media networks.
🤙🫂
#newstr
#grownostr
I just started following you. Going to be a bit of a learning curve for me.
If you are wondering if Nostr has legs, this thread should remove all doubt. #[1]
#grownostr
#newstr
#[0]
Actually hoping you would bring a bit of that 😉
Definitely a learning curve.
I'm here because you shared.
It's decentralized, so there is now "here" per se. I haven't figured out how to directly identify important information sources within the nostr universe. I follow you on Twitter. Hope this works out better.
It depends on which Nostr platform you use, and whether that platform supports the NIP-51.
NIP stands for Nostr Implementation Possibilities, and NIP-51 is for lists.
https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/51.md
So far Damus (the platform we use) has not announced support for NIP-51
日本にぜひ来てくださいね❗️🌸💜
You don't, really...yet.
Eventually brands will pay users sats to consume advertising content.
It’s not intuitive…. You need to follow folks individually and then you can also add relays for specific content…. 😐
Trying to figure that out myself
Hacker news:
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No Bullshit Bitcoin:
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ZeroHedge is also on here.
Fountain podcasts also allow you to upload your npub key.
#grownostr has been popular for non btc stuff
Welcome Matt! I love your work and I'm happy to find you here.
Love that you’re here!
I use it how I used to use Twitter. Find people, look at the list of people they follow and then follow based on interests and topics.
Keep in mind that bitcoin twitter moved here first, but others are arriving daily because this is the best free speech platform. As you get into it, you’ll also discover that nostr is more than just free speech.
#[2]
has its Twitter feed fed to Nostr.
Some fintwit people like #[3] are here
You need to find a client that suits you best, they are all under heavy construction still and none of them are perfect.
How do you auto send your Twitter feed to #Nostr?
This could be your thing on nostr. Also, second what other people said in the thread. I do like #[2] for finance and economic topics.
Unpopular opinion, there is not a lot of signal here (yet). The protocol IS the signal.
Followed and Zapped ⚡✌️
I heard #[2] is a good profile to follow :)
For context, I used a tool called rsslay (https://rsslay.nostr.moe) that generates nostr profiles for rss feeds
It’s not ignorant. There’s a lot of potential, but using this app is puzzling.
That's right! No news. Why have news? It's depressing and pulls us down rabbit holes. Just be, we love like that.
Set the relay as needed to follow the trend on the nostr .
Welcome to Nostr #[1]
It’s mostly Bitcoin news around here, so this could be your next nostr note…
Only way rn is to follow the #[2] regurgitator, so there’s a good opportunity for you to become the news here
Came here from twitter because you tweeted the link. Anyone else?
Hey Matt. Good to see you here. I must say that as a non technical type my confusion about this platform is … high. Twitter I understand. This app makes me feel as if I was airdropped into a very foreign country. If you figure it out please enlighten the rest of us. :)
Its your own responsibility to connect to interesting people that you want to follow, what relays to follow (would suggest a few paid and a few free) and from there you will discover and grow your wider social network.
https://nostr.band has some trends if you want to check out.
Still waiting for lists on Amythest (android). Shouldn't have to wait long as features are added at an incredible pace.
Just start to familiarize yourself with the decentralized project first to get your head around how big a disruptor this project will be. Here is a good place to start. Resources:
Absolutely love your work and will follow and repost your posts.
#newstr
Welcome!
This may help you, but it’s still early days. With that said, with a bright future I’m sure.
こんにちは 😃👋🇯🇵
Please also stay on Twitter!
Tried this for a few months…your audience needs both for a while
You’re getting paid to post on Nostr 🤯
You can follow a hash tag, at least with Amethyst client for Android. That isn't a full solution but one tool currently available.
We are being each other news paper
This ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
Depends which client you use. So far there aren’t many who offer list functionality. I go by hashtags or sometimes there are bots who share stuff from Twitter on here as well. Most of them are Bitcoin focused though. Kinda like most content on here 😅 Hope for more normal news bots or functionality though.
To stay up to date about the #Nostr development follow #[3]
DissentWatch seems similar to zerohedge, think this is the public key. They do post a lot
npub1mxq4j8sw5c2nhp58k2hdvu9t0kdkcwksrz3kpv5zpv70pa7q4cmsqgfcal
and he's gone 👀