pls vote
1) bitchat without Tor (privacy danger): 3 MB
2) bitchat with old Tor (slower): 40 MB
3) bitchat with modern Tor (faster): 140 MB
Discussion
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140MB isn't that bad.
3 - I’m fortunate enough to have space for the larger app. Is this a problem on older/less capable devices?
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Data is cheap, and speed is very important.
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3. Privacy is worth the trade off
So far I’ve been pretty good at not talking to people without using Bitchat, why complicate life?
Difficult to have a toggle (save data-slower / faster-use more data)?
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4) bitchat with whatever's the latest version of tor that's actually open source (I've heard they stopped having reproducible source code for Android version of Tor at some point)
One small compromise and it could cost you...
Talking from experience.
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Everyone is using it on a spyware OS, or the other chat members are
Also, Tor's website art is sus
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BITCHat with modern tor, hope most will agree with me.
No brained! Of course 3 !
default privacy.
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I’m a tech retard so I’s personally don’t give my vote a lot if weight but let me chose 3 if you ask 🧡🫂
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Full in cyberpunk, 3 for sure.
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140 is fine #3
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3 and 1, so better privacy than Tor can be umplemented by 3rd party
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Is this storage required or ram? Either way the answer is 3.
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3 of course
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No danger! Number 3
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1. Just give us proxy settings for the love of god!
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wha do you mean about old a newer tor ?
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The average user (and I include myself) doesn't even know what TOR is and what it's used for.
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The user can choose.
Personally, for the sake of privacy, I would vote 3, but this could kill mass adoption and the initial idea of a bluetooth mesh network. So probably 1 is better at this early stage.
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Modern problems require modern solutions
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I'm not qualified to vote, I give nostr:nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3zamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wd3skuep0qqs8a474cw4lqmapcq8hr7res4nknar2ey34fsffk0k42cjsdyn7yqqvkv2u9 my proxy.
Tor doesn’t work for bitchat
This is a good question for folks in freedom restricting regimes. Overlap with nostr folks today my
guess is not great. Maybe a good poll for the next HRF survey and/or conference.
cc nostr:npub1szpa7cypmyd59083qs3pte9lez22lzfu6pl2guhgqx7q09x68y6qquh3td nostr:npub1cf3zeytdnwgwzz5pk2ax0vvmmlzad03xcft4d50ejrfhsh8pxcdsefx7gk
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What is old and modern tor?
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4) rewrite tor, because I don't see reason why it would have 140MB
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having all the options is not on the table, I guess?
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#3 all the way
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140 mb in modern phones is nothing. Option 3 of course ✌️
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3) ₿itchat with modern Tor. ⚡
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1, I already have Orbot running.
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My vote is 3. Using outdated versions of Tor is a massive danger to both privacy and security. Plus, 140mb isn't that big so it's a solid trade-off.
Make Bitchat 10 GBs
Add some Bloat, Modern Graphics, Detailed Skins, we don't live in 1960s when 10 MB was $3,500.
We live in 2025, and SOON WE'LL BE IN 2026 😲!
You can buy a 2TB hard drive for $200.
Hell Add The Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, and Monero Blockchains to Bitchat as well.
I don't get where this fear of utilizing data comes from, I know bloat is a drag, and people used to do more with less but sometimes under optimized code that functions properly is better than over optimized code that is so slim that it's prone to errors.
Be a medium little medium person, and stop being afraid to use some memory.
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🐒 tor is the onion browser. do we have to get/install/use ~modern~ tor ourselves? or is it put inside the bitchat machine? wouldn’t we just want no. 3?
3! Great stuff calle.
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Is it possible to download Tor as a module? so the binary is only core features. But then user can download Tor module
3) privacy by default
Since there is no kyc already, using bitchat with a VPN is private already, right?
I vote 1
4) Bitchat with modern Tor OR I2P.
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