If a book had a decent number of diagrams and charts, would you want the audio version or would you want the physical/ebook (visual version)?

Secondary question- if those charts and diagrams are described in the audio version by someone who knows what they are talking about, would that affect the answer?

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If you are relying on images to convey the message, then audio will always fall short.

I’m always having to ask “what’s this chart saying?” So having an informed person describe it would be very useful for me

I don't have time to read. Audiobook or no book personally. Also blessed to have a job I can listen all day

Physical for sure

Visual. Yes.

Lots of diagrams make it difficult to consume a book by audio, TBH. I’d probably swing for something visual.

I like both but if there is a lot of visual charts and diagrams I'd opt for physical.

If there could be both the audio and physical copies, that would be optimal.

The first answer depends on the second question :)

I would listen to such a book, iff the audio version comes with good description of the charts or they can be downloaded separately and the narrator tells "please take a look at chart 10", so I can pause, find it quickly in PDF reader, take a look and continue listening.

Easy: audio and have the visuals as downloadables from somewhere, don't try to describe IMHO!

Idk how much that helps, but I get the computer to read Hayes articles to my SO while showing the graphs at the same time.

Who is the books targeted audience?

Would want the physical copy. You should sell a bundle, full price book w/ half price audio book. I’d probably listen to the audio book first then go to the book later to see the charts.

Ebook version. Kindle diagrams not good, would want url to charts if possible

I listen to YouTube in the car often. Many are discussing charts. Visuals will always help, but a good “play-by-play” of the main message will suffice. The true answer is offer both 😉

Physical or ebook … it is almost impossible to listen to podcasters who have video pods with visuals they try to describe.

Audio would need visuals available to be able to follow along imo

audio, don’t care, say “see chart, trust me bro”

Physical/ebook or audio book that came with holographic charts with Mathew Mezinskis narrating the charts😊

I feel like I understood the charts from Piketty, Capital, from the audiobook alone. Never opened the PDF, nor the physical. The text contained short explanations of the chart axes and shape.

I don't read long form much anymore. I prefer audio as it allows multi-tasking. Graphs make it hard because they're entirely dependent on how well the narrator can convey the information from the graphs to the listener. This is critical since the paragraphs preceding or following the charts will inevitably be dependent on it.

I think back to multiple podcasts where graphs were shown and every single one of them lost me since they were basically assuming people were watching the video rather than just listening audio.

Ideally, I would like to be able to reference the visual via QR code or something. Until there’s a direct stream option with accompanying visuals.

Physical books all day!

I would prefer physical/ ebook copy if it has a lot of diagrams.

Definitely want the audio book. Other audio books that have had them toss them into a PDF that you can download and look at later. I consume most of my audio while walking so would prefer the narrator describing what they're referencing for sure.

Second this. Proper reference to the chart/diagram in the PDF, very brief audio summary of what the chart/diagram is supposed to illustrate.

It all depends.

I want audio over text, as I can listen to books while doing other stuff, which aincannot do with print media.

Also if seeing the graphs is a requirement, the book should be rewritten. Every graph used in a book should either be properly explained in the text or not used at all. No exceptions.

I personally always like the visual feedback but it depends on the person. I guess my brains just works better that way

both

audio and print are complimentary

Audio with a chart on a webpage to look at while listening would be very helpful

I have gotten to where I prefer to listen to books rather than read them. If it is print only I may not read it.

Audio descriptions work fine for me. Seeing the chart isn't as important as a clear interpretation of what it means.

You will likely get varying responses as it depends on who is responding - whether that person is a visual or auditory learner.

People who like charts tend to be visual learners so personally, my recommendation would lean more towards the physical or e-book.

Some individuals may find the audio version sufficient if they can comprehend the visual content through the narration. But descriptions of complex diagrams might not be as effective as seeing them visually.

It might be worth considering a combination of both – listening to an audio version for an overview and referring to a visual version for in-depth analysis and reference to diagrams and charts.

I would really love both. Diagrams provide a powerful message that words can’t. However, sometimes I really need good explanations of what is being visually conveyed when it comes to money. I imagine reading a book of yours would be very rewarding and a privilege but at the same time I love to work with my hands while educating myself. Thanks for asking and I am very excited to be ordering Broken Money in book and audiobook form soon! Just wondering if you have considered a subtitle for the book with a succinct message of positivity and hope of a solution?

Personally I would want the physical/ebook only version. While I can often visualize what someone is saying verbally, seeing the actual graphs and charts is so much more powerful.

Do both but , for the audiobook, provide a PDF of the chart. And either read it yourself or have nostr:npub1kzu0hk2h3tpru7pdj73jk7e6wtx6qas8vy6eh4jkv82zw545py9qu9rf4g read it.

I have no clue the work effort but if it’s not too crazy, make all versions. Don’t underestimate how many of us would buy all 3. I like to have the physical at home, the e book for travel and the audio for commutes.

I’ve seen a hybrid approach before, audiobook + a PDF with the charts. Those who want the charts can refer to the PDF when appropriate, those who don’t can ignore it and stick with audio only.

I definitely wouldn’t like some sort of audio description of a chart, that’s almost guaranteed to be disruptive and annoying.

I think stopping the flow of the book to thoroughly explain the graphic could potentially help the layperson better understand the subject matter.

These explanations would have to be very thoughtfully written (probably by the main author) and the integration into the body of text would have to be planned out carefully.

I think it COULD be done. From my experience it’s harder to consume more serious subject matter via audiobook, so I generally opt for fiction as audio. But I also only listen when I drive so that’s just my 2 sats 🤷‍♂️

Physical, hard cover, always regardless of contents

Audio description of charts and figures seems suboptimal, but probably better than not describing them at all.

I’ve seen other books provide links to electronic versions of the charts/figures to go along with an audio version.

The audiobook with pdf download of charts and graphs has been a good compromise imo.

I’ll need the hard copy, but I would love the audio for the car and gym

Audiobook IF narrator can deliver (not easy).

Else, paper/ebook

I am a bigger fan of audio books because I can get stuff done when listening. I appreciate a good description of chart/graph.

Audiobook. Always.

I have to go audiobook for my lifestyle. I've spent enough time around charts to visualize them pretty well if they're well described.

Easy to reference PDF accompaniment is a nice bonus.

Physical book

I would love to see a feature in the audiobook apps that displays images and charts based on a timestamp in the audio playback. If you click on the media then it pauses giving you time to absorb it. Sorry I didn't really answer your questions but it would help address the issue.

I’ve had other audio books which reference visuals which are also provided. That works for technical style books. I think both would work but audio with references or audio with descriptive bits would be a preference.

You know, video is a thing, Lyn

Audio with pdf link.

I’m a bit older so I lean towards the hardcover.

However, some of my audiobooks come with a separate pdf for things like that.

Go multimedia with it - a physical book with a video lecture. You’re such a great presenter, an accompanying video would be superb!

Physical all day

A pdf version is what I would prefer.

Physical

I don't like audio books.

Here is what another highly visual book Making Work Visible did. The author created an audio companion pdf. You could in your case put it behind some kind of paywall or something? I don't know. But having listened to the Audio bookm and reading on kindle - it was pretty hard to visualize this stuff until I accessed the companion. In fact i may have tried in kindle also. If memory serves me, even reading it on kindle was a pain as it was black and white instead of color and you can't zoom in. So in that case the pdf companion was also useful.

Book:

https://itrevolution.com/product/making-work-visible/

Readers guide

https://itrevolution.com/product/readers-guide-making-work-visible/

visual companion

https://itrevolution.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/MWV_audio-pdf_101617_r1_download-size.pdf

Apologies for not reading all of the above comments and if this has been already mentioned. As an idea, a number of audiobooks offer pdf downloads for diagrams/figures that the listener can print for reference. In reality, I'd likely buy both to consume at different tjmes...

1) Audio book

2) Yes, it would make me more likely to get the audio book.

If you publish a book I’m going to buy the physical version.

Buy the paperback copy, of my book, too! ✌

Physical / Ebook

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Yes, I would consider the audiobook if the charts are well explained.

Physical

If somebody knows what they're talking about they can explained any chart or diagram in under 10 words, else it's a thousand either way.

1. physical/ebook

2. Nop

The book is the best reference

physical

yes

Physical book and ebook with link to digital version of graphs. I’ll likely read it slow and refer back to the charts and graphs. It will be helpful to see them on a bigger screen as I take notes and reference them.

Regardless, I’m grateful you have applied your gifts in this area. It really helps make the world more understandable.

Audio with attached pdf 😁 They do that on audible. Will buy your book either way but hope it appears on audible as it is my main source of books 👍

For me only Ebook and physical version.

Audio with accompanying visual materials.

That's one of the main reasons I still buy physical media: if there are charts and figures. It would be great if audiobooks described diagram better, but that's sadly rarely done well. I'm looking forward to your book Lyn!

I buy both.

Listen to audio while reading tangible.

I’m weird I guess.

Second point… if it’s YOUR BOOK I want the tangible regardless. Hardcover, first edition. 💜

If it's something I would be interested in (your new book perhaps), I'd actually want both. I prefer to listen when consuming knowledge as I do not usually have the time to sit and read. However, I do like to stack my bookshelf with reference material.

Ebook

Would love an audio version especially with explanations of the diagrams. There is so much down-time riding the subway I would love to have something interesting to listen to.

I’d still prefer to see the charts by myself and have a closer look even if the reader describes them. It’s just too interesting to not have a closer look

It dependencies. The volume of visuals would have the biggest effect on my answer for sure. For example say one was reading a book like "how to lie with statistics" which is super heavy in cartoon illustrations and diagrams, i would prefer to just see it because of how long it could take to describe the image.

QR code in the book to a Nostr note with audio or YouTube link

Both. I found that I want to have great learning material with me at the lowest friction possible. Sometimes I listen, often I kindle to mark up, sometimes I read the hard copy.

Physical book

audio + diagram only pdf🙏

1. I prefer visual.

2. Very few people are THAT good.

Physical preferred.

I would probably get both the audio and the physical book

I usually get an audiobook and buy the physical copy if i liked it. I find a supplementary pdf of the charts is very helpful for audiobooks.

Always physical for anything academic. Easier to bookmark and come back to.

Audio for fiction usually, to listen to more casually.

Have you ever followed a football game (european version) via radio broadcasting? It's amazing, it's so exciting, it's so engaging ... with a very good commenter, obviously. But maybe I am just an audiosexual... Congratz you have that book so far! Can't wait!

Would want the audio version in either case but would be even happier in the second case.

Charts are powerful visuals, like mic-drop memes. Yours are always 🎯

It's difficult to voiceover that, still, give it a best effort cause audio format is also a great thing. 👍

I would always like an audio version to accompany a printed version. Whenever I read/hear a "serious" book I try to get both versions and move between them

Yeah of course it affects, I would go for the audio version if someone explains the graphs properly.

Having said that, the written version is preferable but we are all in front of the screens too much already so it’s nice with an audiobook for a change.

Audio is awesome. But it surly depends on how important and numberous the diagrams and charts are. But I take a wild guess, that the explanation and conclussions you provide are farmore important and insight enough.

So personally I prefer Audio, since I drive around a lot. Thats where 90% of my "reading" is done :) Otherwise I would "read" much less.

I’d love both. I frequently listen to the audio and read the text at the same time. Helps with absorption

Physical, so long as it is paperback

1 Generally, I choose the ebook first, sometimes complementing with the audio version. Notes and search are important functions. If I really like it I go for the physical book as well.

2. . For example, the podcast Crypto Voices has great content, but there is a lot of discussion around graphs and figures, which makes it rather hard to follow on audio, even if the host Matthew Mezinskis is fantastic. A picture is worth a thousand words

Physical books only for me. Very good question though. Love your work and can’t wait to get a copy of your book.✌🏼🍊✌🏼

A good audio description of the chart would work. Just a thought but could you publish the charts on your website and point people there if they needed a visual?

If there are pictures in the books, ebooks usually don't do justice to them. I just can't listen to books for some reason have tried many times. So for me preference is ebook if there are no pictures and pictures if there are pictures I will try ebook first and if it doesn't work then order physical book

Good questions.

Give me the paper book any day - can't be deleted, doesn't need batteries, can't be tracked.

Both. I think that people that listen will not then look at a PDF but might buy the book separately and look at them then. Two entirely different media. I did this with Ray Dalios latest. Would talk more to the graphs principles on the audio version.

I would prefer visuals in a book. An alternative could be graphs on a website and audio with explainations.

Yes. And it would be nice touch to have another person to “visualise” the pics to listener.

Is epub/Mobi version in the making?

It will depend on the reader - someone who has interpreted charts before will be able to visualize them from audio

I've yet to get an audio book with charts etc that didn't force me to give up and buy the physical version. like with a podcast I have to get on the youtube version soon as we start talking charts

I bought layered money ebook with a link to download pdf of images. Needed the images despite knowing what a pyramid looks like.

Visual ebook

I’m partial to audio books, so charts that are described by an expert in reading them can be effective. I don’t need to see ‘em - just have someone describe the concepts at work in them!

Both. Can listen while reading. Ensures more retention. Describing charts is tricky

My “me” time is only in the car, so audiobook is the only way for me. About the second question, no problem at all!

Audio with accompanying video of text and illustrations that therefore allows for animations

Yes to having someone describe the charts in the audio version. I’ll definitely buy/read both physical and audio.

1) Personally, I like to have both.

2) Diagram and chart description in the audio book would be needed for the complete experience I would think. Would they be available online as supplementary materials?

If my choice is one or the other I would choose paper. Especially if you're printing a hard cover copy

Prefer physical books for being able to mark up, take snapshots, and for future memory reference.

i am all for physical ;)

Short audio description and linked to view on its website

I would like audio book but in an independent format not on audible which can be taken away any time.

I really enjoyed Tim Urban’s approach with the audiobook for “What’s our problem?”

He published a companion pdf with all the diagrams.

https://waitbutwhy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Whats-Our-Problem-Audiobook-Visuals-Companion.pdf

Then during the audio book he would give a basic description which for most situations was sufficient. But then others I was able to pause and look at the diagram before moving on in the book.

Just a thought.

Physical

In those cases, I often buy the audiobook and hard copy. The audio is essential to me actually getting it read.

I wish audiobooks would come with essential visual pages, like some Kindle books do.

I prefer to physical versions because I can focus & think about charts or disgrams.

If the audio version have someone who get the author idea, it will ok, however, the environment noise is the limitation of audio book users. They have to use more intention to listen a book with many charts or diagrams.

It’s also a barrier to readers who aren’t native language users.

Thanks for the space to share my opinion. 🙏😊🇹🇭

I’d prefer the visual version.

For audio version: Tell the listeners once where they can find the charts and at the position of a chart: speak a reference label/number instead of a description. Anyone who wants to know more details can make a note and look it up (later).

If you’re referring to yourself and your book, I won’t mind either. I’m confident you can do the audio properly. Not sure in general, I might go for the print version.

I'd probably get both!

Dear Lyn, I’m old school. I will buy the physical version regardless of the peculiarities of the audio version.