Just to be clear with you- I personally believe that lgbt is sin and outside of God’s plan. We were meant to reproduce, or else to abstain from sexual immorality. The lgbt actually leads people to loneliness, sickness, and desolation- a sick culture.
Now, making laws about this is very different. The law should not change based on what people believe.
The Lord Jesus Christ said: he who is without sin, can throw the first stone.
And that applies to this sort of moral policy, especially when we are talking about government laws about sexuality- Which should not exist at all.
But that doesn’t mean I won’t “discourage” my culture from sexual immorality, if I can.
This might seem like total fascism to you, but it’s not at all. Since I am making it clear that the government/state/law should NOT apply to this area at all. My beliefs do not control the law.
The tyranny of the false law that does have these moral policies: drug war, firearms restrictions, etc- must be ended!
It’s either that or the culture will slip into an authoritarian pendulum, swinging back and forth between the extreme left and right. Both sides willing to use the power of the state to restrict Liberty. With each swing the “progress” towards totalitarianism continues.
The only solution is LESS government.
You should also read Bastiat:
https://cdn.mises.org/thelaw.pdf
(Very short!)
Bastiat makes a great point here:
Thanks for your explanation. I really am with you in one sentence of your note at least:
"Now, making laws about this is very different. The law should not change based on what people believe. "
So religion should be kept out of law making. I think we both life in liberal societies. They are liturally based on freedom of religion, freedom of expression and the freedom to do whatever you want aslong as it does not take away any freedom from someone else.
This is incompatible with enforcing whatever Jesus said. Laws are based on proper reasoning. Our societies are not depending on christianity. Christianity is depending on the society.
And I am quiet sure most priest would interpret said phrase about throwing the first stone as as a trap. Since it will be most probably be based on the fact that no human is without faults (sins). Jesus was very clearly liberating from those who want to enforce power over others. He forgives the murderer, forgives the thieves, forgives those who betrayed.
So I do not see any way, you could use Jesus to argue for verbal or physical violence against LGBTQ.
But I would say our society is really past this still reasoning based on what is written in the bible. Theologs can reason about the bible. But I really can only accept good reasoning.
I think Jesus was a very good person in reasoning well. I would love to argue with him. But Jesus was not a liberator through enforcing some old writings out of the Thora. So shouldn't we.
Jesus is the ultimate liberator.
In terms of sexual immorality, the problem is that it hurts those involved in it most. And it should be discouraged culturally.
I realize we won’t agree about that. But I needed to make my belief clear. It helps to make the point that the two of us can still agree about the proper function of the law: ensuring liberty and maintaining peace for all.
-while disagreeing about cultural issues.
This point is missed in so much debate online “left vs right”
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