Idk if yall know this, but…

I used to do drugs (besides weed). I got sober from narcotics and alcohol when I was 19 and it wasn’t “easy”, but…

I’m on day 4 of absolutely 0 sugar and I can confirm that sugar is the most difficult drug to kick.

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I did keto for a while to reduce weight. It's amazing how addictive sugar is 😵‍💫

I wonder why they add it to so many foods these days 🤔😅

There’s also no detox meds for sugar so I’m just a crazy person with severe cravings 😂

I remember feeling physically ill for over a week. Worse than quitting alcohol for sure. I still think quitting nicotine is more difficult, but that's it's own beast 😂

Well, I didn’t count nicotine because I’m still vaping 😂 that comes next, I have a new method in mind

That urge to murder is the hardest part 😅

That’s why I’m gonna be playing videogames nonstop

Keeping busy is the best option, yes 👍

Less time to think about not having nicotine.

Yup now I have time to stay busy. But, I got this idea from medically induced comas…if I just hibernate and stay asleep for a full week, I think I could quit

That's some outside the box thinking.

My specialty 😂 making all things lazier and easier

The detox meds for sugar = proof of work 😬

You can try and go lazy route, but that also sound as painful.

Yup. So far, I’m doing ok with the white knuckle approach

Last spring i went keto - getting past that keto flu brings a wave of almost manic energy. Its great 🤣

Is that wtf keto means ? No sugar? I thought it was carbs, which I’m still doing 😂

Carbs break down into sugar, so technically yeah haha

Yeah because the body needs some sugar to like…function 😂

Your body has workarounds for that, gluconeogenesis.

Mostly your body can run on fats, and can produce the sugars it needs. That's why there are essential amino acids and essential fatty acids that you must eat, but no essential carbs.

Eh well simply eliminating “sugar” and hanging onto carbs has been working for my goal 🤷‍♀️

Im gonna keep aiming for pain-free first and then I can worry about whatever a “healthy” diet is supposed to mean these days.

The carbs help me hang onto the weight I want to keep

💯 use the diet that works for you. Keto worked as a way to shed 40% of my bodyweight and reset my metabolism. I pursue a more balanced diet now 🤙

That's the beauty of humans digestive system, it's very adaptable. From the Inuit on an almost purely animal diet to tribes that consist of mostly grains and vegetables, history is full of examples. A lot of people preach that everyone should eat their "one true way" but I think different people have different needs. I just try to avoid overly processed food, that works for me now 👍

Yup and then there’s that whole microbiome. Everyone’s is unique to them.

Yes. Reconfiguring your microbiome, plus turning systems like gluconeogenesis back on are the reason for keto flu. It takes a while for the body to get back to homeostasis, come to terms with the new diet.

"Turd burglars"

i wonder what the conversation was like when the modern microbiome scientists had to convince the remote tribe that they wanted their poop for science.

“Here’s money, give poop”

money is worthless out there.

it just makes me laugh to picture the know it all western scientist bartering for a tribesman’s poop.

“Look, best I can do is 2 baboon brains and a honeycomb”

We need some sugars, but the typical diet is def taking in excess. Its probably not the best long term strategy, but its a good reset for your body. Am considering doing it again 🤔

Sounds rather torturous 😂🫂

But that mania 🤌

😂

And yes - i'm arguing for Noshole + more energy 😂

That’s a terrifying thought 😂

Keto food tastes like ass.

Some people like eating ass

There better “select” ass then, from real chef. Not someone that has never tasted cake before.

There’s keto good and then there’s good good.

Better be*

Only if you're a bad cook. Same holds true for any food.

I am a terrible cook.

It's a very rewarding thing to learn. It's one of the things I actually enjoy AI assistants for too, very helpful.

I always said, i am willing to eat almost anything as long as i have a real chef that takes their shit seriously.

I’m still learning, but compared to most women I know, I suck

My greatest victory was learning how to make my own good sauces, after that everything tastes good. Bechamel, wine reduction, a bone stock, and a good tomato sauce go a long way to be able to make anything taste good.

What’s the best sauce that will go with anything?

Pretty hard to go wrong with bechamel, white sauce. It's a good base to add any flavor you want to. Probably the one I start with the most.

It really depends on what you're cooking and what your tastes are though. Food isn't a one size fits all thing, it's very subjective.

What do you put it on?

Anything & everything. It's a mother sauce that can have any flavour profile added to it. It's just butter , flour, and milk. Savoury, salty, cheesey, sweet, whatever the dish needs.

I vote pesto 🤤

And you post notes about pickle sandwiches?? Why are you holding back, sir?

Too busy cooking tasty meals 😂

I have put a couple recipes on zap.cooking, but honestly I'm more of a "just throw things in the pot/pan" kind of cook. It's not exact like a recipe. Vibe cooking I guess.

And pb&p sammies are a delicacy 😋

I'm the same way. Most of my recipes are approximations.

😂

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The more things change, the more they stay the same 😅

Stop it I’m getting hungry

Same. Full on hangry

It takes at least a half decade of research and experimentation for a homemaker to become the revered motherly chef. Being a nostrich places you on firm footing.

Yeah and my mom didn’t really cook when I was growing up so the kids that were in the kitchen learning and helping got a huge head start 🫂

How does your mom feel about you throwing her under the bus?

I doubt she gives two fucks.

😄 does she cook now?

Occasionally

I always tell people starting out to watch Jacques Pepin's fundamentals of cooking he did for WGN in the early 90's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nffGuGwCE3E

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMO4e_FzXX12QHXOnBt2NGPbPhsV-onvC

☝️ this

I ate pre packaged crap until 30 years old. I was a good cook at around 35. The math checks out.

My dearest puts food in the oven while its still preheating. Your not alone

You’re not supposed to do that? 😄 why can’t you preheat the food?

“Pre heat” is when the ovens on bake & broil at the same time to get the temp up as quick as possible. You won't cook food you will char it at 180

Ooo I like it charred sometimes. I didn’t know about the bake & broil. 😎

I asked AI

I reheat food while the oven preheats it is actually my preferred way I think the food turns out better

My ovens an over achiever

Comparison = the thief of joy. ☠️

You got this it will be worth it in the end. I don't know if you like super dark chocolate but Lindt sells a 100% Cocoa chocolate here in Canada it was a nice little craving reducer but you have to already like super dark chocolate I think that and coffee with full cream (like not whipped whipping cream).

Yeah I believe we have some in the states too, but I have yet to get any. Next time I’m at the store

https://www.amazon.com/Keto-Chow-Daily-Mineral-Drops/dp/B08GTSGKCM

Ketorade sparkling water:

1 qt sparkling water

2 tablespoon of lemon/lime juice

2 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar

40 drops or 1/2 tsp of Keto Chow

For 16oz bottle: 20 drops or 1/4 tsp

Ketorade water:

2 qt water

4 tablespoon of lemon/lime juice

4 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar

1 tsp of Keto Chow

Place 2 qt jug in fridge. Serve with ice.

🫂 I’m not keto, but thank you

When you reduce your sugar intake, you lose water weight, which can cause flu like symptoms. This is just high quality Gatorade without sugar. You won't know unless you try.

Ooo I see. So I’m not trying to lose any weight. Ideally, I would like to gain some. Sugar elimination is 100% for inflammation contributing to chronic pain. I would still be eating brownies for breakfast otherwise😂 I can still give it a shot 🤷‍♀️

Losing water weight is not losing weight in my book. I am on keto for inflammation reasons too.

Ok got it. I’m just really nervous about losing weight again as you can probably tell and “keto” freaks me out

When you lose water weight, the electrolytes go with it, and this simply replenishes them. Acting as a detox med.

That’s what I’ve been doing with these bad boys

OK. You got it already then. 👍

Yup, I know it’s pretty lazy that I use the capsule form, but it’s the only way I can ensure that I take them

You can do it! 💪🏻

The no pain is a big incentive for sure 😂🫂

No mental pain, no no more physical pain 😂🫂

Precisely! 😂

This is true. I don’t eat sweets except on special occasions. Not because I don’t love sweets but because I love sweets too much and if I do I’ll awaken my inner sweet demon.

Same. I used to buy frosting knowing damn well my only plan is to eat it out of the tub with a spoon

Idk how many boxes of the kid’s Cinnamon Toast Crunch I’ve destroyed.

Sweet Demon is real

Ugh that shit is like crack for me

For real, I get a little fiendish

Become diabetic, so you have no choice? idk. That's what I am 🤷🏼‍♀️

The way I cackled 😂🫂

Thanks

I would have never started these changes if it weren’t for endo so the no choice thing really works

IKR

I swear if the doctor just lied to me and said I have lung cancer, I would have already quit the vape 😓

I need serious incentives to act

Wish I had dumped sugar much earlier in ife. At first was the toughest to kick I agree. I am on 7 years ZERO sugar now. No Booze working on 35 years. at first it sucked but now I would not live any other way.

Ugh, I do feel way better, just sad I can’t eat cake anymore

I miss cake as well. Family rolls eyes at me on my bday when I do not eat the bday cake. Basically I embrace the suck. Your mileage may vary.🙂 👍 🫡 😉

nicotine is difficult too.

GL with your low/no sugar. it is difficult. that's why junk food contains it.

🤙

Yup. Giving up everything I love one by one. The vape is next. I failed many times, but gotta keep at it

I started nicotine at 14. it took me many tries to kick it. keep trying is the only way.

you'll do it.

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huh.

my wife is kicking sugar too.

i guess it’s time.

Ughhh it’s not at all easy

Major respect to you for being real about your journey. Getting sober that young is powerful and you’re right, sugar withdrawal hits different. Keep going, you’ve already proven how strong you are.

I'm in for zero sugar -> starting now

No alternatives (stevia)?

Good fucking shit dude

Fuck yeah except I have nothing to look forward to 😂

oh bullshit dude! 🫂 caffiene nicotine, weed through other ingestion methods ;) But maybe just do a complete detox for 2 weeks or something then you can go back to guilt free quality of life substance use?

plus you got the puzzle man!

Bahaha I know, but I want to be dramatic today

0 sugar - why lol 😆

me admiring your recovery...

😂😂😂