people aren't yet ready for nostr. and that's ok.
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nostr will find you when you most need it.
That's what I said months ago, my comment was not well received 😅
I agree, there is still a long way to go 💪🤓
#nostr #network 🧡🟣⚡️ 
Send a email https://legend.lnbits.com/smtp/CaVS9FjCFHRB969rtgpUZt
Keep it legal
je suis raidis
It is works for (n)ostriches, that is for sure! ;-)
Also it is ready for leading the fight in a great way, we can’t and even should not try to pull everyone outside right in…
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Those who are ready enjoy it.
People get Bitcoin and Nostr at the price and time they deserve.
Am I doing this right ? 😉
We are early. and that's ok.
All in good time.
What metrics are you keeping your eye on?
Still better conversation rate (and much less churn rate) compaired to Threads :D
We’ll be here waiting for them when they are.
But nostr is already ready for them
Will they ever be? 🥲
Good morning Jack. I hope you're okay after seeing what happened to Twitter.
Gotta be honest much less user friendly than twitter… but I don’t want to be a data cuck. 98% of the social media users don’t understand this point
nostr is very friendly, twitter only appears friendly because they censor so much
Let’s build the tools and they will come
I am. And thats ok!
Same for BTC.
I love everything tech, but as far back as the BBS days 👀 I saw the possibility for abuse.
I have no fb, no x, no reddit, no google that aren't built on pseudonymity.
I've waited a VERY long time for nostr! 🫂
hello world. I'm Leonard.
That's not ok because time is short we need more people to work here now
Did the experience with friends. Too much conversations a about Btc, Sats, Applications, technical stuff. Right now only Btc or privacy concerned people are using Nostr daily. The new Nostr apps will have to completely remove the protocol complex stuff to concentrate on the user experience to let people use the app as they are using current mainstream apps like Twitter twitter, PayPal, WhatsApp, etc. When I see developping on Nostr I'm 100% confident, that will happen pretty soon! ⚡
nostr bridges to the 13million user fedi, so surely you can find something else?
this relay
wss://relay.mostr.pub
This means we are all bots here? 🤔
That's why my ex left me saying I have no emotions.
protocols loading , take time
I think people are but it needs a mainstream celebrity or other mainstream public figure to endorse it. One of Twitter's old strengths. Storing nsec are going to be an impedance for some so it may even need a Twitter like front-end that entirely hides the underlying infrastructure. But, basically, private key management is going to put some off (erroneously IMHO). But needs celeb/public figure endorsement.
Whichever non controversial public figure is on here first gets close to 100% follows.
Also a bit less 'crypto'. That's not a judgement as to the rights or wrongs of the currency elements, just that it is impenetrable to outsiders and most people just want to chat and share. I think that's at the core for most folk in all other rival services (Pic: future Butters from South park selling NFTs).
we need kanye
it sounds a little narcissistic.
I think people just go where the crowd goes. and since nostr doesn't have money for promotion, adaptation will be slow.
Is there something that can be done better by people already on nostr?
Dirty little secret ist: Most people like being fed. By the algorithms, the government, AI.
Self-sovereignity requires (hard) work, and work is exactly what people don't want to do anymore in this day and age
They will, when it becomes "cool" so to do. Once the Public shames these centralized data thieves, and it becomes apparent that "they're being had", then the "great awakening" will happen. This could happen in a number of ways, big influencers, only accessible through NOSTR, or more RELAYS getting very popular, and thus ppl start coming-over. This is my first time being here, for instance, bc Jack posted a Youtube video about NOSTR, and I then discovered this video: https://iris.to/note10ukx9ezqtzwsm9krg0yxh4esfmeqpq8cy99e4mlj8xmuhkxxjfwsjext0c
which has led-me-here, and I'm really digging-it so far. This is my first NOSTR-ing---all within the last x30-minutes, bc of Jacks recent Twitter post.
This is going to happen, big, I can feel it. May take a while, but we'll all be NOSTR-ing and looking-back at the hated gate-keepers that largely stole and profiteered off our data, and wonder, "I can't believe I used to be involved with that"---Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. etc. Or, there may be a amalgamation, where we sparingly use the Centralized Social Media apps, but stay on this open-sourced protocol more-than-not....Will be interesting to see how this plays-out.
Algorithms and self-sovereignty are not mutually exclusive. On #nostr you can have both!
dont put nostr & bitcoin in the same sentence and more people will be interested
not sure on that as the recent big news on nostr was because of bitcoin
Sadly currently any nostr user *must* be willing to use bitcoin and pay for a relay in order to get a decent experience, that's the root cause of this being a BTC echo-chamber
not true, paid relays are pay to write and free to read cmiiw thats why devs should make their clients able to browse/filter relays like coracle, snort & damus
Yes they can see but cannot engage.
If you only post to free relays, who will see your posts?
If you respond to a viral post will anyone outside your following even see you?
Non-BTC people have zero reach, hence the echo-chamber.
Fucking exactly!
People will run for Nostr out of necessity. Until then, let's prepare grounds.
they already are, we have sex workers and certain software projects
not in the adjacent possible yet
To be fair, nostr isn't ready for people yet. One advantage of centralisation was minimising data usage. I just woke up and have already used 0.5gb of data, not usable on prepaid mobile plans, and WiFi isn't ubiquitous down here
They will be. Give me till years end
Ah. Yes. The people are retarded. xD
We are working on project that uses nostr. People will be using nostr without knowingj.
exactly
Show them https://zapstr.live/ nostr + lightning = SoundCloud+, letting people stream sats to their favourite streaming artists. I think this can be a good entry point for creatives.
Hello World!
nostr is a protocol.
People don't care about protocols, they care about services and their functionalities.
#nostr allow us to build killer services that people will care about.
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I am fully ready for #nostr , i love it
That's okay because I don't think nostr is ready for the masses yet. Still too technical and complicated for the average Joe with 100k+ spam emails in their inbox and 70 chrome tabs draining his battery.
amethyst handles spam very well, it probably needs a default follow list for new users to get the most
Yeah you're right.
I was using the spam example like a metaphor for those people too lazy to learn how to protect themselves from those flashy buttons you can find in those sketchy websites 😜😂
They’ve been back into X-elon.
😒
It’s just “cosa nostra”.. (few will get it)
nostr isn’t ready for people either. Sadly.
Specially having to sing-in with the private key on the different clients…
People are never “ready”.
People wait for something to be thrown at them. Exactly like the audience in a theater.
Nostr is not yet fully on the stage.
Doesn't matter.
plenty of people are ready for nostr and nostr is ready for them
people are not yet ready for reality and decentralization. and it empowers those who block reality and decentralization, and it's not ok
Sadly Nostr is also not ready for the people … user adoption friction still to high and apple’s boot on micropayment notes is expelling a large userbase from participating in a necessary part of value4value models 🥲
Some people will never be ready until it's mandated. Nostr is a choice, like Bitcoin is a choice. The choice you make once you recognise it's solving an issue. Once the vail of misinformation has been lifted I expect a large inflow into systems we already recognise to be the way to go.
nostr is cool. Having to read how nostr is superior to other protocols and having all the evangelists in here talking down on other platforms on every second note they post here is not. And I don't mean you nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m
But their kids are gonna love it :)
Most people...
Most people aren't ready for bitcoin either.
Most people just aren't ready for anything.
We're not most people.
But, that’s 👌
not even us.
nostr will eat alot more than we think.
They will have to 
Yup, give them time. We have built it and they will come.
Whats the easiest way to create nsec/npub?
astral.ninja ?
What you recomend?
ahahahaha
Who need the mass anyway ?
Don’t worry Gradually then Suddenly 👍👍
You're right nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m, the adoption of new technologies and platforms like Nostr may take time, and that's perfectly okay. However, I firmly believe that #Nostr is an innovative and promising platform that has the potential to revolutionize how we use social networks and control our data.
They did for #bitcoin as well, and that's ok.
They weren't ready for Bitcoin in 2012 either yet here we are. We're sooooooo early!
"All digital media is going to zero against nostr" - Max Kaiser 2025.
Everyone has their time, my father for example thinks that #nostr is something like the deep web, a place where there are only bad things, for bad people. He asks me to be careful every time I go to his house. I'll make him watch the documentary so maybe he'll change his mind.
The more mainstream Bitcoin becomes as will #Nostr
I believe that the best are already here, but they will come.
Well just this morning I got a girl to download Nostr and wallet of Satoshi and she's is in Nigeria it will spread like wildfire people are sick of Facebook cause it's to close to home and their sick of twitter cause it's to political #nostr is zen with zaps for been witty and having good content.
Alot more people will come in my opinion..
i'm already excited
Hi Jack, i really appreciate what you do for the greater good, free speech, thoughts and connecting people. You’re making the world a better place. Keep it up
What doesn’t Block run a big relay for square and cashapp users setting a path for other co.’s? Relays are turning out to be a bottleneck.
People aren’t ready for Bitcoin also
The average person does not want to deal with public key encryption
Some are...
Just enough of us are ready to make sure Nostr is there for those that have the lightbulb moment, and we are here with our arms open: love, kindness, strength, health, compassion, empathy, forgiveness, gratitude, joy, happiness
Most important is that nostr will be ready for the people.
Slavery is familiarly comforting.
Here I am, Jack
The problem is they don't know about it, I just discovered it after I watch the video you shared on Twitter.
Curious as to why you feel that way
They’re ready but they are blinded by SOME. They will come, sonnet or later
I have some time to explain it. Not sorry.
nostr ecosystem has still a long way to go for people to get onbard, tldr ux is bad.
1/ learning about is painful. there’s plenty of doc, but it’s very dev oriented, so boring for the pleb.
2/ “create an account” is stressful, first you need to understand the concepts of pub/priv keys because now to signin on your social all you need is a key, no more email+pw. counter-intuitively this sounds more like some sketchy stuff rather than the security & privacy shield it’s supposed to provide.
3/ find a client, and boy it’s hard. there’s plenty of them out there, if you wanna stick to one it’s tough to find the right client that works for you. after some experimentation i came to the conclusion that primal is the least worse.
4/ relays are really bad from a user perspective. it means having to do your homework on what relays do, how they talks to what clients and when do they sync with each other in order to maximize your chances of getting ALL of the nostr network, in real time. this is for me the biggest hurdle in nostr.
4/ I’ve been on nostr for 24h and I still have a hard time understanding how this all works. you can’t refresh your feed like you would on web2, which doesn’t give this sense of “fresh news delivered” that web2 provides. search is clunky, i can’t like posts on web and i can’t follow people on android so it’s pretty much buggy, and so on.
no way my muggle siblings are doing all that. we’re far from mass adoption, but as long as we keep building on top we’ll eventually be able to offer the comfort of use people or used to, and therefore expecting from a social network.
The relay configuration is a bit concerning, too complicated for plebs and creates reach anxiety, are other nostr users able to see my notes at all? Can my notes dissappear suddenly if relays are shut down?
Nostr might have the same trajectory as "Linux on desktop"
It's quite technical, moderetly interesting for the masses, yet liberating
The Time will come
It's fascinating to me, when media reports on users fleeing Twitter or some story along those lines they mention mastadon, bluesky, but never nostr. I see nostr as tor. You may not use it everyday, but when you need it - it's there. And that's what counts.
If one app goes viral, the whole of nostr goes viral. We are early.
a client that caters teenagers first, that’s really suitable for their needs will do it.
tiktok was a cringe musical.ly app, that us adults never even considered using, but kids made it popular, and the word-of-mouth advertising by kids is seriously underestimated.
the dopamine isn’t derived from likes but rather meaningful conversation on Nostr. People don’t understand that they can still get their dopamine. They just have to stop posting shallow pictures and rather meaningful and inspiring content.
Entertainment ready..
That's so laughable people have never been more ready for an app like #Nostr especially with the decline of Facebook and Twitter.
#Nostr is a social place were it also pays you to be witty and funny they're is no other client like it at the minute.
I've been on here since early January and it's grown and grown and more people are signing up everyday the more #Bitcoin becomes mainstream so will #Nostr, and that's what we want right? Jack ? Or you just want to create something and shit on #Nostr which is it? Saying people aren't ready for Nostr is like saying people are not ready for UFOs it's not up to you to make that call.
it was easier to purple pill my family.
still working hard to finish the orange pill treatment 😇
so i think, ppl are ready for nostr! ... they just dont know it yet. ⚡🫡
they are also not ready for bitcoin, for low time preference and mainly for understanding that every imperfection detected and reduced is one more step to be happy.
Soooooooooooon 💜✅
Yes, people ain't ready yet. But we can make them.
but your kids are gonna love it
When all apps are built on Nostr will we still refer to Nostr or will it just be what it is?
I'd be on here everyday if the lag on @plebstr wasn't so bad on my Android, but I'm not switching devices or running from @plebstr any time soon.
As long as Nostr is ready for them when the time comes, it is a success.
You cannot understand the solution if you don’t yet understand the problem
Absolutely. It is for free people. Free in mind and in spirit. In time, more free people will oboard because it will become clear that it is the right approach to safeguard their voice.
I’ve had it for the last few months but have just started really interacting with people on here. People are so welcoming and helpful on here. It really draws you in!
They will discover new content when they are ready.
Why? What do we need to wait for? It only took me 5 seconds to join and get a $^$% blue check
oh, wait! I see orange checks and white checks . what do they mean??
i deleted X. Only Nostr. Honestly less time with the mobile. Better
Same. Nostr and instagram are my only social medias now. Nosrt 90% more than IG.
Because people don't know about it.
But they will
people still aren’t ready for bitcoin. Is that OK?
they are ready actually, but #nostr not popular yet
Nostr is in a line in which developers must decide if it will only be a Bitcoin stronghold or a new decentralized and censorship-free social network. Perhaps to gain popularity he should go the other way and go from the social network to Bitcoin. For this, it is necessary to attract content creators that are not only and necessarily referred to Bitcoin
From a non-tech viewpoint the blurred images make it less user friendly/enjoyable. It’s nice to be able to scroll and see things without clicking to unblur.
That aside … the people here are refreshingly honest and kind.
well... there you are again... that's retarded. ppl are more than ready.... the problem is there is no product! ....i just don't understand why you are trying to "fool" everyone again .....
please ... make me understand where is nostr "safe" from "the guardians"!!!
i think when we remove expectations, we enjoy it as is
sometimes overload of past experience - esp from other social media - prevents us from gaining new exposure. Bruce Lee adopted all the best features of other martial arts, yet always willing to learn something new so that he can continually evolve. "Empty your cup so that it may be filled," he wisely put it. If people came with an empty cup, I believe they will enjoy it so much more and build upon it.
nostr is not ready for people
https://iris.to/note1hj4m6ld3utjj3qls24nlfyzcx5hegkvhk4rzyjvj3hdewf6z2t2srfd4rv
I think sheer curiosity will bring more people and once they arrive, they may realize that they like it. Happened to me. ☺
I’m becoming less and less ready for any and all social media. It just isn’t what it used to be.
Right
Investing your time into NOSTR now is like investing your money in Bitcoin in 2010.
But I need them to be if https://asami.club is ever going to be useful :_(
For a person to be ready for Nostr, person needs to love their freedom and be craving it. There has to be a specific view and understanding of things around us. That takes time and effort.
From watching your reacting in a recent interview you had and I must say that I’m super pumped by the future of this platform
Quick, better build some fake decentralized snake-oil called bluesky and shill that instead.
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its ok because nostr isnt ready for the people either.
keep building
Hard to find a group.. not really any community besides bitcoin crowd..
I've seen a lot of people speak about data security and privacy. Sure a lot of those people also like bitcoin... 😅
You can find some groups by going to https://graphicsocial.media just click on the things that interest you and then follow any people who post interesting things. There are many many interesting people on NOSTR.
You can find some groups by going to https://graphicsocial.media just click on the things that interest you and then follow any people who post interesting things. There are many many interesting people on NOSTR.
Getting closer
translation: humans have no idea what nostr is and society is not capable of withstanding the protocol and there isn't enough time to inform everyone of the danger.
but goats almost are.
I am me, and I'm ok. 🤙
People may not he ready but this is the next big thing in social media. Hope NOSTR replaces Youtube, we need an alternative to it.
It's my first steps into it.....
I know of a content provider who's on Nostr. Goes by Brainpod.. You can see him on Rumble. He's a blogger with many many videos, and has posted to Nostr. He says he never sees his posts, and honestly, I can't seem to search and find him.. Maybe I don't know how to use the search feature or something. There is content out there. How does it get publicized might be the question?
That the corpos fight zaps I don‘t find ok.
Bring back Xanga on Nostr!
Not enough suffering yet. As the global socio-economic situation worsens and social unrest rises and governments become increasingly authoritarian and censorious, more and more people will feel the need for the self-sovereignty that Nostr and btc and LN offers.
I’m ready sir 🫡
Nostr isn't yet ready for the masses. And that's OK.
How are the servers secured for nostr? Why not use a dlt instead. Hedera Hashgraph most promising.
There's one brilliant play.. By Goran Stefanovski.. A man says..( I'll try to translate..) Not all can understand everything but those who are given to understand..
That's how I feel here..for couple of hours..I dont understand a thing lol..
Just.. I am aware.. Which can make things even worse.. 🤣
Born ready 🫡
"build it and they will come"
I tried using it weeks ago and felt lost. It wasn't until I came across Max DeMarco's video on YouTube that I understood what was happening. It's a wonderful idea and I'm glad Nostr exists.
Why? I'm in. And we will rise.
Nostr is da future
Jack how can I use Damus to connect with expats in El Salvador? Particularly, those who are also planning to attend Bitcoin2024 in Nashville? Thanks!
When the floodgates open, we’ll be ready for them to experience uncensorable news.
This is cope.
People aren't ready to have a broken cuckstodial payment system foisted on them.
🤣
I'd argue Nostr isn't ready for people. I care about decentralization a lot, but most people do not care enough to move out of the comfort of personalized content. Until that can be replicated, it's difficult to compete with modern social media.
But of course, I'm optimistic about Nostr's future. I'm currently experimenting with ideas with customizable client-side recommendation algorithms or/and higher level relays with curated content.
I’m ready.
I’m ready for Nostr. #nostr #nostrich #plebchain #blurt
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Part of the journey I guess. Thank you
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Nostr. ? What are you talking about?
GM
Use Nostr
nostr:note1w5mmm9qfxjgfja9w8hajkt7urckanhc2cexqlc2k37r4d6zgjrdskjln6k https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_2316149697490697501690698220.webp
In time
It's true. I don't know wtf to do w/it or where to find hubs. Starting w/News hashtags & I'll read up on this environment.
I'm going to look into building a polling client/app good enough to sell as a package to levels of gov't as cheap,simple,verified,secure referendum/plebiscite device. I'll ask GPT for help...my programming is sub intermediate.
natural process of progress
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/07/we-need-new-science-progress/594946/
Jack I'm going to look into building a polling client/app good enough to sell as a package to levels of gov't as cheap,simple,verified,secure referendum/plebiscite device.
I think for verification,one could go into the local city hall or state or federal office and w/picture ID confirm that #nostr public key as yours,so verification to the polling area.
I'll ask GPT for help...can Chat GPT write me a #nostr polling client/app? I'll try...VCs?Even if you go do it I'd be happy. Go do it,make a billion$ &I'll be happy for you&the world. The world needs it.
If I may ask - what's the reason that Square doesn't offer option to accept bitcoin Lightning payments?
Can fake accounts harm the growth of Nostr?
Isn't it the other way around?
One of the major flaws is the lack of consistency between clients and UX.
#nostr is a protocol, but no app provides experience and functionality worth attracting an audience not limited to nerds and weirdos. Also, the lack of control over your content is not significant, and there is no proper way to prevent bots, spammers, or anyone to stop interacting with you.
Still a long road ahead.
What clients are you using?
Damus. But the fact that you are asking underlines the problem. The experience and functionality should be consistent. As a creative, I don't find it helpful at all. I believe that people should start building with more consistency and focus on platform maturity. The whole relay part is not that great. Your content might end up on shady servers because, let's face it, for now, the most attractive use of the protocol gathers people that believe they can use it as a dark market or people that were banned from other platforms for good reasons
Appreciate your feedback! ⚡️
Yes, it is a situation that could make you nuts, if you develop something or have an idea of something, and the world is not ready yet. Later on someone comes out with it and the world love it.
When people onboard nostr without knowing about or even caring about bitcoin, blockchains & decentralized protocols. But cares that creators cannot get banned, and information can be freely shared, thats when we know nostr has succeeded.
1. It's a pain in the ass to set up complicated relays.
2. Can't attract Twitter pornography creators or pornographic photo creators.
3. Wallet is not built-in, you have to download and set up wallet, especially for those who don't like cryptocurrency, they will find it troublesome.
4. Bitcoin only accepted, no other cryptocurrencies?
5. Can you find my account on Google, Yahoo, Bring...? Can I find my posts on Nostr on Google, Yahoo, Bring...?
(For example, after a few hours of posting on Twitter, my posts can be found on various search sites using specific keywords.)
Solution is, educating people!
Day by day we are waking up and getting there. (This is my first comment on here)
I'm going to look into building a polling client/app good enough to sell as a package to levels of gov't as cheap,simple,verified,secure referendum/plebiscite device.
I think for verification,one could go into the local city hall or state or federal office and w/picture ID confirm that #nostr public key as yours,so verification to the polling area.
Good morning ChatGPT:
if you wanted to build an app that does polling, that is secure and scalable to a nationwide referendum, which language would you choos if you were pretending to be a master programmer like Elon musk or Jack Dorsey etc?
ChatGPT:
If I were pretending to be a master programmer like Elon Musk or Jack Dorsey and wanted to build a secure and scalable app for nationwide referendums that involves polling, I would choose a language that excels in both performance and security. Considering the scale of the application and the need for robust security measures, I would opt for a compiled language like Rust.
Rust is a modern systems programming language known for its strong emphasis on safety, performance, and concurrency. It provides memory safety guarantees through its ownership and borrowing system, which helps prevent common programming errors like null pointer dereferences and data races. Rust's compiler enforces strict rules on memory access, ensuring the application is less prone to security vulnerabilities like buffer overflows.
Here are some reasons why Rust would be a great choice for such an application:
Performance: Rust offers performance comparable to C and C++ due to its zero-cost abstractions and ability to write low-level code when needed. This is important for handling a large number of concurrent requests in a nationwide referendum app.
Concurrency: Rust has excellent support for concurrent programming through its ownership model and lightweight threads called "async tasks." This makes it easier to handle multiple concurrent users participating in the referendum.
Memory Safety: Rust's borrow checker and strict compile-time checks help eliminate common memory-related bugs, leading to a more secure application.
Community and Ecosystem: Rust has a rapidly growing and enthusiastic community, along with a robust ecosystem of libraries and tools that can aid in building secure and scalable applications.
Security: Given the importance of nationwide referendums, security is of utmost concern. Rust's design principles and safety features make it well-suited for writing secure software.
That being said, building an app for a nationwide referendum is a complex task that involves many aspects beyond just the choice of programming language. Security, scalability, and data privacy are critical considerations, and the development team must follow best practices and conduct rigorous security audits to ensure the app's integrity and reliability.
How long before it blows up do you reckon?
.... please continue GPT...
Below is a rough outline of the app's structure and some key components:
Backend Server: The app will need a backend server to handle poll creation, voting, and verification of "nostr" private keys. The server would communicate with the app using API endpoints.
Database: A database is essential to store poll data, user information, and verification status. SQLite is a popular choice for small to medium-sized applications.
User Authentication: Users should be able to create accounts and log in securely. Authentication tokens (JWT) can be used for secure user sessions.
Poll Creation: Authenticated users can create polls with specific questions and options.
Voting: Users with verified "nostr" private keys can cast their votes on polls.
Verification: Users can verify their "nostr" private keys with their respective constituencies by showing ID at the relevant government office.
Security Measures: Implement security best practices like input validation, encryption, and ensuring secure communication between the app and server.
Please remember that this is a high-level outline, and the actual implementation would require careful consideration of security, error handling, and performance optimizations.
Cost estimate for creating a #nostr #client #app to do local to national level polling,as a referendum/plebiscite device/product/service for governments to do accurate,geographically-sensitive polls and referendums....
GPT:
To provide a rough ballpark figure, it is not uncommon for large-scale applications with similar complexity to exceed 50,000 to 100,000 lines of code or more.
Based on the estimates provided earlier, here's a rough overall estimate for the entire project to develop a nationwide referendum app:
Total Estimated Project Cost: Considering the development team's cost and additional expenses, the total estimated project cost could range from approximately $460,000 to $560,000 or more.
[so maybe 2m?]
Estimated Time to Complete: For a project of this complexity, including development, testing, refinement, and potential unforeseen challenges, a reasonable time frame would be around 6 to 12 months.
Based on the earlier estimates, a minimum team of 3 key roles would be required:
Backend Developer
Frontend Developer
DevOps Engineer
For the sake of the estimate, let's assume an average monthly cost of $10,000 per developer.
Total Estimated Cost for the Development Team: 3 developers * $10,000/month * 12 months = $360,000
Keep in mind that the actual cost may vary based on the experience level and location of the developers, among other factors.
Additional Costs: In addition to the development team's cost, other expenses may include:
Infrastructure and Cloud Services: Costs for servers, databases, hosting, and cloud services required to run the application.
Software and Tools: Expenses for licenses and subscriptions to development tools, IDEs, and third-party libraries.
Security Audits and Testing: Budget for security experts to perform audits and penetration testing.
Legal and Compliance: Costs related to legal advice and compliance with data protection and privacy regulations.
Project Management: Fees for project management and coordination.
Software and Tools: Expenses for licenses and subscriptions to development tools, IDEs, and third-party libraries.
Legal and Compliance: Costs related to legal advice and compliance with data protection and privacy regulations.
What people?
We are here and more are coming. There is just not marketing budget, to just make it Boom.
And that is good, organic growth like life and Bitcoin is positive.
nostr:note1w5mmm9qfxjgfja9w8hajkt7urckanhc2cexqlc2k37r4d6zgjrdskjln6k am I the only one who is 100% annoyed by censorship?
Because yall can't make a decent app
We only make indecent apps
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Oh c'mon!
If you can create an entirely new Internet Protocol you can create a decent fucking app so don't give me that shit.
Most people aren't technical, I mean fuck, some people don't even know what the words Internet Protocol even means. They just want to use their email and a password and be able to sign up don't make it fucking complicated like the stupid ass fediverse.
All these developers here creating complicated ass shit and then calling them social media sites. Yeah okay they're not that fucking simple all right for the average person.
People have to basically sign up to their local community college, and download a 6,9 59 page user manual in order to learn how to use nostr.
Then guess what!
It's all about fucking Bitcoin! -_-
You're shooting yourself in the foot by only appealing to one fucking audience.
The mostr bridge Alex created is the only reason why I'm back on nostr. Now at least I get to see other shit.
Having good apps is a huge win for the Mastodon people. They managed to get the guys that made the good Twitter apps on their side when Elon fucked them over.
It’s just a shame they’re ruined by the people and thin stances on that part of the fediverse.
The internet was a complete pain in the ass to use in the 90's, and that obviously didn't end well for the internet.
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Disagree. It's about want, not readiness. Few people want an experience that is difficult to curate and customize. Ground zero is a mad max wasteland of noise.
Someone has to "watch the Watchmen" and on this protocol WE'RE all our own Watchmen. It's a lot of power and too much for kids and even normies.
Clients would be good to clean up the UX as much as possible, smooth out the functionality and have options for prepackaged relays that filter out content based on a user's preferences. I can't recommend this protocol to any normal person...
Too hard. Too techie. Too much filth to filter out. Too many glitches.
Personally, I like a lot about it! But this is real world feedback fwiw.
I think many people would be ready for NOSTR if they knew about it. In all the press coverage about Threads there were mentions of Mastadon and BlueSky. I did not see any mentions of NOSTR. NOSTR needs a good PR agency who can get NOSTR mentioned every time there is a story about Threads, Twitter, Blue Sky or Mastadon. This was an extremely popular post with 180 replies. Many people make good points about the onboarding being difficult and some inconsistencies in the UI between clients. These are all valid points, but the fact is that NOSTR "works" on some level and what it lacks is more people on the network. More people coming and testing NOSTR created more value faster than anything else. Sure it is early and some people will get turned off but the experience is getting better each day and many will stay. #grownostr
They should be
People are not ready for Web3, owning your data, self hosting on your local device at home, secured by a Internet OS, but that's ok.
Let's just keep building!