It's absolutely shocking that there is no significant political opposition against the erosion of online privacy rights that is happening in front of our eyes all across the western world.

Nobody is coming to help us anon. You know what to do.

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There is no online privacy

Maybe if we lose the illusion of online privacy, people will write each other letters encrypted with air-gapped devices for actual privacy

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Most are in their own little bubble prison already and don't even notice..... or care. Probably.

All your billionaire friends love this idea. Its your millionaire friends. They own all the tech. Its your friends hahaha

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fuck politics, totally waste of time; just don’t stop write code

Most people feel they don't have much to hide. They probably wish they had more to hide. Life might be a little more exciting that way. Maybe the real enemy is mundanity.

Privacy imo is not so much about hiding but deciding yourself what data to share. Which is nothing that should remain secret because its criminal or something but just my personal things that I maybe don’t want „everybody“ to know.

the same happened to a significant degree in the 90s and early 2000s--and it wasn't the political opposition that fought back. Very instructive to read what hackers did back then to change the public conversation. https://openlibrary.org/books/OL36394285M/Cult_of_the_Dead_Cow

Interesting, never heard of that. Goes to my reading list. 👍🏻

Pirate Party 🤔

The key issue , is that it’s very much the classic us vs them, divide and conquer strategy.

I notice this in comments section of those who attempt to address this concern. The blame always seem to be on “most people”.

The failure is the lack of education targeted to most people. The government’s & tech companies get away with this purely based on that most people are happy to spend 8 hours a day scrolling bullshit on their phones, latching onto obscure trends and arguing amongst themselves about irrelevant facts.

It’s sad to say the problem is the lack of education by those who know and understand what the problems are.

It’s time we all made a concerted effort to radicalise the education efforts

I am not a friend of radicalisation but you are very right that this is mainly an education problem. People simple are not aware of how much their privacy is touched by all the digitalisation and how this could be used against them anytime later on.

Snowden once put it: "Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."

Privacy is not about hiding criminal things but about being the owner of your own data and deciding yourself what to share with whom. And that is a basic right.

the masses do not care

the influencers are complicit

hope lies with the ride or dies

Me gustan tus frases 🫡

Dune then Bitcoin Standard

Are we going to have sandworms?

Shai-Hulud? Inshallah

Truman show then bitcoin standard.

Fear is the mind killer 🦅

Rebels and visionaries can coexist in perfect harmony ... Every pharoe had his priest.. 🖖

FULL SEND

I think the masses do care, well a significant number do, but they’re too trapped within the system to escape.

If you work in a place that’s fully g00gled etc etc it’s hard to escape. Some of us are lucky in that we can earn a quid outside of that.

And speaking as someone that vaguely gives a fuck, it’s a full time job trying to keep up with the bullshit.

Agree there’s a lot of larping in the influenza world.

Really? I find most people take the 'indont have anything to hide' or 'im not cldoing anything wrong so I don't care if they track me' road ..

Ride or die

The people that care about privacy, especially on NOSTR, are the same people that say “politics don’t matter”

But now they want political opposition? Lol

I'm ready for the Ride or die way

I didn’t need a vaccination passport, and I won’t need a digital ID

I'll go down with this ship, if I must. 🫡

BTCRDs

wen orange party? nostr:npub1hk0tv47ztd8kekngsuwwycje68umccjzqjr7xgjfqkm8ffcs53dqvv20pf

Lol anarchists don't start political parties

This is what makes me think..

nostr could be just as important as Bitcoin. What good is freedom money, if you cannot freely communicate?

you're so close

Well said!

Governments don't save anyone. Their top interest is self- preservation, which is their relevance. They only way they stay relevant is to consume the population's Freedom in the guise of "safety."

I'd be shocked if there was - privacy protects and empowers the individual which is counter productive for any political party

I’m not surprised to be honest

There is no opposition because perversion will be legalized and have it's own channels.

follow me

A true oppposition will not come in the form of a party or leader. When genuine, it's a bottom up silent revolution

I think so too, it has to be a grass roots movement of resistance or at least attempted. This is where I firmly public private key cryptography will play a central role and areas like NOSTR must flourish.

*believe

Nostr is the opposition. We don’t need politics.

Biggest black pill ever is that the overwhelming majority of people will do the convenient thing, not the right thing

Therefore the job of the new leadership stratum will be to make doing the wrong thing instantly and extremely painful.

It's cool, humanity is headed towards a Hard Fork.

The government runs the education system so that citizens are programmed before they can think for themselves. This has been increasing over the last century or so as the older generations depart and the newer ones have already accepted the current paradigm. The Fabians work over generations to achieve their objectives and so do almost every other aspect of society, from the churches to the head of state. They lay the groundwork yesterday for the spires of tomorrow. Unfortunately, the rest of us are too busy trying to stay alive to think ahead that far and we are nearing the endgame for their plans. Once they have Digital Identity in place, please report to your re-education facility...

Yes, iTs aLmOst LiKe iT's cOOrdinAtEd.

take away people’s guns and you’ll be able to do whatever the fuck you want to them

Meanwhile in reality USA is the absolute worst for how the government treats it's citizens

mah nigga you are right

I hope you posted this from some fair country like venezuella

Pirate Party in Germany diluted itself too much with other topics. We have to take it into our own hands.

How any politician would defend our privacy, it attacks their very way of existence

Unsurprising, no? Privacy is about leaving a person alone. That's never an aspect of any political system AFAIK. So any solution towards privacy kinda has to be non-political.

Cypherpunks write code.

The current crop of rulemakers have no clue about the power of code. Now is the time to show them.

And #privacy requires active participation 💪😎

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I'm trying to think back to the beginning of COVID. The opposition was not very loud at first, then it ramped up significantly, but only in certain countries.

This will probably be similar

a lot of my friends, and even collegues in information security talk like "we have nothing to hide" 😖😵‍💫

Most people have stopped trying to wriggle out the clutches of their communist government, it’s easier to succumb.

Hopefully we’ll turn it around soon.

You are the problem.

Calling governments "communist" for being capitalist.

You are the kind of person that makes it easier for the government to oppress people because you intentionally try to confuse people and make political discourse impossible.

1984 bullshit you're peddling.

Should be ashamed of yourself

First of all do you know which country is being referred to here? You mention governments. The erosion of online privacy rights being discussed here is in relation to recent events in the UK.

Also, the UK may not have full blow communism but in many aspects of its society do operate in a defacto socialist manner and this aspect has been getting worse. Emphasising the problem can help counter the slow boil of acceptance and acclimatisation.

Also, you seem to be using the terms communist and capitalist in a binary sense as if you are one or the other. I don’t think this is a useful way to view things.

Private tech or tech rejection. Internet incorporated too many fields of life.

The normies are not ready. Not enough pain.

So many normies are trying to survive the fiat rat race. They’re not thinking about Nostr or Bitcoin. It’s day to day for them - Next meal, next paycheck etc.

Grass roots education isn’t working

Unfortunately, they’ll have to figure it out when they’re ready

What am I missing

"Dá-nos um rei para que nos governe, como têm todas as nações" (1 Samuel 8:5). Quer se manter livre, não peça um rei. Seu trabalho é Top!!!

Unfortunately, it may have to get worse before it gets better. 😔

It’s quite clear to me the is the new front upon which The Political of the future will be defined.

Cypherpunks don't care who claims to be their ruler.

Privacy? Pfff...

What about taxes and regulations?

Most of the people around you are zombies. Deal with it and enjoy your democracy.

Think not only what privacy can do for us,

but what we can do for #privacy

💪😎🔥

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Why? They heard the message from the privacy loving anons about politics not mattering. You should be proud. Your message got through to them 👍🏼

I have a pretty simple formula. When the state makes tyrannical moves, I buy some the hardest and strongest digital asset.

Ja! Sehr gut!

I need your help in building freedom tech that i can use.

There's too much money involved. So naturally they won't.

Once it hurts their coffers, THEN it'll have opposition. At least perhaps - and, yeah, it's basically just me hoping it.

Man, this whole agegating came so quick and sudden - I do sometimes wonder if there is a conspiracy behind this. There isn't, I know that, the drafts and all have been out since forever... but jeebus it does suck balls. And not in a good way. x.x

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Someone should hack the system and leak the ID verification of all UK politicians.

Imagine being mailed poop 💩 every morning 😎

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The boomers don’t know shit, the millennials are to overwhelmed, and the kids don’t give a FUCK. It’s scary.

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I know too many millennials who dgaf either, it's terrible

I need my government to stop protecting me

You are absoluely right - but lets reflect for a moment:

With Bitcoin we are promoting a public, transparent ledger without privacy and where the Feds and CEX know your withdrawal addresses - and therefore all future (and past) transactions.

Custodial Lightning does not make it better.

Looks like Bitcoin is not coming to help us.

I do not know what to do (except moving away from BTC) - do you?

Do not use CEXs and you'll be fine. Also avoid custodial KYCed solutions.

Be real, 99% of people by on a CEX with KYC.

Getting some tainted darknet market BTC from Hodlhodl is not what i can recommend either.

If most people, including yourself, don't want to do things wright, please do not complain about Bitcoin privacy features.

doing things wright like craig wright?

Peg-in to Liquid (use full Elements Core), swap back into BTC or Lightning. Never sell BTC with KYC.

I dont see how that makes BTC more private for the normie.

Bitcoin did not promise privacy for a normie. One must grow to deserve it.

Normies will just use Monero instead.

It is absolutely shocking that people promoting Bitcoin complain about the erosion of privacy. You know what to do. Buy Monero.

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We're the significant political opposition, sir.

People don’t understand what it means

This will be our fate until the nerds decide to deliver user friendly apps.

yeah ..i think to protest is to use the centralied X platform cause thats where the Lord of censor reside . it doesn't make any different to protest here ..no one hardly discovered what you wrote ...

I don’t find it to be true. But they are not present in the discussion, maybe they can rise in the next elections

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party

there is never a shock wave in sheeple community - they already voted who are making the laws.

Just a bunch of politicians with different shades of shit. We're crossing the Rubicon now!

That fight was lost 20 years ago.

Sorry for the bad news.

People are too docile (governments keep them that way on purpose) so long as Netflix is connected, beer flows, and the illusion of "freedom" continues, there will be no resistance. A little fingerprint here, a face scan (for your safety) there, and people will eat it up. People are terrified of freedom because it's dangerous and risky.

The west is falling.…Bread and circuses. When it comes to the majority, things don’t change

Onboard as many people to nostr while we still can.

Once the apps all get taken down from the app stores it'll be a lot harder to purple pill the normies

I will buy a second-hand catamaran sailboat and escape to the sea to avoid this erosion of privacy rights. I will enjoy the freedom of the sea and the world, regardless of what others say. I don't care.https://www.yachttrading.com/used-yachts-for-sale/yacht-type-catamaransailboat/

You’ll likely be more at risk given that maritime laws offer broader state powers.

it’s bad

The good thing is that people always find a way. They will never completely control us, and in the end we will always win.

code > vote

Authenticated private data, classified and fed to big AI. Precious life force, just given away, to empower a few. Beggars belief?

Its only shoking because u are asleep the whole time

the history of genocide and oppression of opinion is not something new on history .

Genocide of opinion is the most heinous act man can do to human brains

anon oh anon

anonymous

anony

anon

Not sure about significant, but not insignificant:

Stop, drop and roll

I thought it was “duck and cover”.

Hmm, I dunno, possibly ‘see it, say it, sort it’

“Duck and cover” was used during the Cold War as a drill for citizens to protect themselves from a nuclear event. ☢️

“This method of crouching and covering one’s head with their arms ensured their survival.”

Online privacy is a reflection of real life situation .. you can't change the reflection ! ..I am not saying real life privacy is good or bad ..

"absolutely shocking"? Really?

There is. Support them to make them stronger. Write about them to get them in the middle of our attention span 🫵

Vote for the pirate party on election days.

https://www.piratenpartei.de/nachrichten-und-chatkontrolle/

Support the EFF to support a freer internet.

Green parties also often emphasize for privacy rights.

In Spain and France left parties advocate against state surveillance.

Open Rights Group in the UK:

https://www.openrightsgroup.org/what-we-do/

European Digital Rights (EDRi)