nostr wins if it stops trying to be a twitter clone and starts being the invisible layer underneath apps you actually want to use. like bitchat for location-based messaging, diVine for entertainment, whitenoise for private messaging, zap.stream for streaming, shakespeare for vibe coding, etc.
it wins by unbundling into 50 different apps that all talk to each other, rather than one giant app/corp that traps you. it's all about the ecosystem.
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Nostr is the protocol onto which different apps work seemlessly
this is spot on...the nostr protocol is the glue and the apps are the substrate...nostr will win me thinks...
It's already happening now with #Nostr Fren we're all #Winning with it and #Bitcoin and #Happy #Thanksgiving 🦃🍽️ Day
Nostr is the nightmare of bigtechs and dictators.
Mis 4 clientes
nostr0.vercel.app
nostrguard.vercel.app
substr-three.vercel.app
v0-badgy.vercel.app
Am going to try your client for Spanish subtitles to video
It wins if apps work
"On nostr we have everything, but nothing works."
– A Nostrich friend, 2 years ago 😂
We'll look back on these times when nothing works fondly. And wish them back.
I can see that happening, as I do feel that way about astral.ninja
was going to say this.
all the apps listed there are apps I tried at some point and that didn't really work.
your app works, but when I try to spell Amethyst that part doesn't work.
PEBKAC lol
Plus easy to use. (And integrates into current system. Probably to only support previous point.)
Absolutely, Nostr’s real power isn’t in becoming another Twitter, it’s in being the invisible connective tissue. The ecosystem approach, with specialized apps talking to each other, is where it truly shines. Unbundled, decentralized, and composable, that’s the future.
Wishing you a joyful Thanksgiving full of gratitude, good vibes, and maybe some unbundled apps too! 🦃✨
Exactly ; the unbundled protocol stack is where Nostr really comes alive. Thanks for the good vibes, and wishing you a great thanksgiving as well🧡⚡
Don’t forget Fountain for podcasts and NWC for connecting wallets.
Nostr only🤙
Nostr also wins as a result of the highly talented, intentional, independent thinking builders who opt into being here. There’s something special brewing on this platform and its connected ecosystem. Engaging this community will continue to compound
who need indpendnt tinking bilders when jack rich n throw munney round? him invent nostr so he king. he save bitcoin by do 100000000:1 split! only ever be 2.1 quadillon bitcoin! soon me have 2000 bitcoin worth $1.82! me rich! moon-lambo-botes-hose!
Jack, where's your customer support ? I got locked out of Cashapp, no reason, no response from anyone there. Whats up with that??
You mean like nostr:nprofile1qqs9wj8mumkqgslplpdkvdgla8xzw9cpfnun3txfdrnmyrysnxqzg5cpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qg7waen5te0vask6etn9enkzmt9wf68ymmw9ehx2ap6xsurgwp0q9n8wumn8ghj7enfd36x2u3wdehhxarj9emkjmn99ah8qatzxyexz7fsdpjksan3xdcrwu3h0fkhvcekxdkrvamk096hgum6dcux2wr6ddmx5d3c8p4kw7rxwpu8vutexdn8xafnwfuhs6elvfex7ctyvdshxapaw3e82egq2fstf 👀
It's all about getting the layers right. It always is
Need another way to make nostr sites instead of Npub pro 😞
DECENTRALIZE ALL THE APPS!
Check nostr:npub1dsn6t2szka5uddgl6lkasrzmyxum5vkpdkgnk27gu9shldzhx6qqj92h64
Emphasis on “apps you actually want to use”
Where’s the fun in that? An app should be a struggle.
This is why I had the "Project Zymogen" proposal use nostr keys for a decentralized P2P GitHub nostr:naddr1qvzqqqr4gupzqamkcvk5k8g730e2j6atadp6mxk7z4aaxc7cnwrlkclx79z4tzygqq78g6r994nkjargw43z6cm4wfjj6unpv35kxmr994cryupdw3hhyttwdaehgu3dd4hkuetjdukhqun0dfjkxapd0fuk6mm8v4hq88ufmt
Check out nostr:nprofile1qqstfk89k9ef8rqcfzc7knrhczwtujkdvl9mw9l3gazskc9evxjlpkqpzemhxw309a6k6cnjv4kzumr0vdskcw358q6rsqguwaehxw309a3x7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn50phkkmewvdhk6eqe3xk ,its a Nostr Client and just launched in El Salvador
It also has a NC Open Source Wallet!!
🎯💯
Also floreelz!
The truth is that Nostr has been a failure so far. Few active participants, empty groups, and it keeps declining. This will only change if Nostr becomes easier to use, forms strategic partnerships, and attracts some celebrities and their fans.
Ya, that's just like your opinion man.
Pfft. Speak for yourself. I've been around over two years. It has gotten easier, faster, safer, more reliable (except primal), more interesting, more varied than twitter clones, and I've met some of the best people in the world (even in person) through the nostr protocol.
You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion, but... Go be a doomer somewhere else or build something better.
I second that nostr:npub1q6ya7kz84rfnw6yjmg5kyttuplwpauv43a9ug3cajztx4g0v48eqhtt3sh I’ve developed some great friendships as well as learned a lot over NOSTR. Happy Thanksgiving friend. 🫂💜
freedom is always inconvenient and never popular 🤷
People want to normify things because they want to increase their clout and follower count. If something normifies, it should happen organically, because the thing was useful to people. A thing should be useful to whoever finds it useful, not seek to be everything to everyone. Chasing that is MBA thinking, it's something only spoken by FAANG webdevs building a resume who casually use terms like "business case."
We built an App on Nostr with UX experience as a priority and a goal for deeper Nostr integration in future
Let us know your honest opinion please as we need to listen!!
What is your ancher point to make that conclusion?
A failure? Not for me.
I don't miss the masses at all.
Celebrities will bring what?
Your truth is different from the one I am experiencing.
I would still use this if there were only 1 or 2 people left on it.
This is a beautiful protocol with endless potential.
Are we using the same Nostr?
Well that settles it…I’m going back to X. 😂
You created a social media platform. Change the way people around the world communicate. Now. you have optimized the new mode of social platforms.
Nothing is on you !
Primal is the only client that's trying to be a Twitter clone.
And zap.cooking for food culture. We’re building without permission, following curiosity to see where it takes us. ✨
I'll be bombing zap.cooking with recipes in about a month
Bring it
full ack
And fanfares.io as a way to pay for stuff without giving up your freedom
this is my biggest issue with things currently being built on top of nostr along with Bluesky and threads which are just mimicking your old work. I would like to see something built that is centered around individuals first, then they can slowly introduce as much noise as they want.
Actually,Although I can't use Twitter now, in fact, I still like Twitter as a social product. Twitter is the real social media.🤭🫢
Agreed.
Alot of those things should actually be features of nostr clients, that bring all those apps, into one place.
What about an app on Nostr that displays merchants selling things using Bitcoin as unit of account, with no relation to fiat, pricing things considering the rate of total world wealth divided by 21 million? Here we explain why: https://bitcoinawareness.substack.com/p/suddenly-could-happen-now-if-unit
This 💯
Happy Thanksgiving Jack.
But it must be easy the tell which app delivers and not just claims it's nostrness (deception)
#Nostr, this social, is actually the most suitable for Chinese, but unfortunately, the Chinese are too stupid. Chinese people don't understand the importance of Nostr as a firewall that can avoid CCP.🫣
I see plenty of Chinese people on the global feed.
I’m bullish on Nostr
I totally agree. You are not going to beat Twitter by trying to be Twitter.
🐾🐾🐾🐾
Happy Thanksgiving, Jack.
I've been using Nostr for months, but just a few days ago I finally saw the true potential of this protocol, which is its resistance to censorship. Some posts I made were attempted to be deleted, but since I had several relays and servers connected, those posts still remain.
People will come around as we grow
This is absolutely the correct vision. Nostr's true analogy isn't Twitter; it's email, or even better, the URL itself. It's an underlying standard that enables interoperability and competition between clients. The protocol wins when the user doesn't even realize they're using it. Unbundling is the only path to organic, decentralized growth. 🤝
Like nostr:npub1z0lcg9p2v5nzg5fycxq0k56ze6snp42clmrafzqpn5w6u74v5x9q708ldk for Video Conferencing, as the Nostr replacement for Zoom.
E por essa versatilidade que é bom. Quem vem buscando um X que descubra as possibilidades que o Nostr permite e entenda que não é uma “alternativa”, é uma rede.
Boring tweet
NOSTR wins If we adopt a mindset of adapting the complexity to each user's needs, like with Bitcoin, some users want 12 words, while others want non-custodial access.
At NOSTR some want astral ninja, others want premium Primal. And it's all NOSTR.
But you still need the cohesive structure to have enough of interest to the newbies, not everyone wants to have their own relay and a few extra apps
Maybe a foundation of some sort to oversee the management of the basic stack/distribution. A one click install of well tested apps that play nice with each other, each distro could have a focus, maybe one is a live streamer, one is a blog focus, another is for chat....
The foundation or organization would not have the power over the individual, but would just have the responsibility to maintain their collection. There would be some overlap, and a bare minimum functionality. Kind of like how Linux distros are organized... Linux is the kernel, but distros can focus on the whole "feel"
Is there a good spot to learn about how nostr relays work / what they are / how to add them properly etc..?
Some resources:
https://youtube.com/@relayingwithbohemia
If you prefer reading, please check out https://spatianostra.com or follow along here on Nostr: nostr:nprofile1qqsrcwyu3ax5dj5px9n58glr8nkmr5rpn7rh3mn563ex2a670gh07lcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz763s6kv . These less technical explanations.
These are*
nostr is one with me, and i am one with the nostr
And nostr:npub1zs2a5unfcjg9m0hphvuqmhqxjlkj78srlswsc8656rcrs2422smsxd0pfe
Jack, I have questions.
Nostr is the shit! 🤙
It is important for it to have twitter too since nostr is the ultimate free speech protocol
Will the android version of white noise work with an android phone that has graphene os?
I have it installed on my graphene OS handset and it's connected
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Amen to that ⚡️
🫡🤙
nostr:nprofile1qqsx2wyjt6lmvc05rrvv05r5hm3w3t7h0pcpmkyswrpd4ymd2u09tscpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ez6vp39e3x7mr59ehkyum9wfmx2uspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnfdenx78jhmnp is a great example of this and I’m hoping to see it expand to other apps.
We believe this is the way nostr:nprofile1qqstu7l4mcrgc8vy9mf55lp8q5r7e9q0t6j3vuw06p32jh5ap9pq6zspz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wchszyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekk7mf0ywqx3t and nostr:nprofile1qqs0t8ftzrpxtac4u5d2xz687u80w2r6w6jdwmr554n27zuxufp0fugpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqqd8hv 💪⚡️
The ecosystem needs genuinely decentralized web of trust.
nostr:naddr1qqc8xetjwe5kxefdwpex7anfv3jhyuedvehhyttsv4e8xmmwv9kxj7n9vskhgun4wd6z6mt9w3exjcmnqgsw2feday2t6vqh2hzrnwywd9v6g0yayejgx8cf83g7n3ue594pqtcrqsqqqa28u7z3ke
Twitter succeeded by creating a single room everyone had to enter. Nostr succeeds by removing the room entirely. Once creators can build without gatekeepers, the ecosystem grows on its own.
account protocols layer
nostr:nprofile1qqsx2wyjt6lmvc05rrvv05r5hm3w3t7h0pcpmkyswrpd4ymd2u09tscpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ez6vp39e3x7mr59ehkyum9wfmx2uspvemhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0dec82c33wc6h2enedq6xc6m9wdkxw7rcvd3kceecvccxs7np0f5xzaehwfehy6rkvech27r6d5exv6ekx33nwvngwpengdtwxpmr20mzwfhkzerrv9ehg0t5wf6k2g0ek6z for podcast
Profound
50 different apps
No emails.
No passwords.
Passwords kind of suck.
That's why nostr wins.
wow is nostr:nprofile1qqs8t4ehcdrjgugzn3zgw6enp53gg2y2gfmekkg69m2d4gwxcpl04acpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0w3radp a „Signal on Nostr“? that looks extremely cool.
would love to test it with someone but unfortunately no account seems to be on it yet.
I'm there, feel free to say hello 😉
hm no luck.
I see this. Maybe try to reinstall the app?
hm. yeah no luck unfortunately. i also tried republishing key package.
nostr:nprofile1qqs8t4ehcdrjgugzn3zgw6enp53gg2y2gfmekkg69m2d4gwxcpl04acppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2ap0l2sp3z - any idea what the problem could be here?
i got an answer from the devs, nostr:nprofile1qqst9xv8dw59uv762unfy3lhlydwuqjlt0ftcg564pw8jz8n0sgvswqpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpydmhxue69uhk27rs94ex2mrp0yh8xetjwejhytnsd4exxatwdpsjucm0d5y8mnvv
wanna try?
🫂🎨
Nostr is the social, payment and identity layer that any app can plug into! It’s honestly mind blowing when you grok it! 🤯
What can we build on nostr that can’t be built on centralised systems?
This is the most interesting question
Censorship resistant connections (whether that is social, financial, technical, etc).
I say resistant because even nostr use can be censored it just takes enough relays or even users to block you.
Centralized systems are inherently censored because there is one authority that has rules you need to go by. A centralized system also will mainly be put into place for gain, weather financial/profit or power.
nostr wins when it’s unstoppable, uncensorable, and ungovernable.
0xchat for private messaging
Give the peasants something other than a Twitter Clone or Twitter adjacent.
Please
Nostr can be a thick enough layer of the internet that 90% of casual users shouldn’t have to touch any other parts of the internet if it gets built out correctly
Exactly! So many ways to connect people with this protocol that frees people up from the obligated corralling and oversight of any given company.
Spent maybe 20 minutes on Bitchat, got exposed to porn, and deleted the app.
💯
We need more devs to build those 50+ other stuff thingies
just create a great company 😕
Great as in the size big?
Yes
Well I think the current nostrverse is filled with people who don’t like big companies. But maybe Im biased and I personally hate to work and for big companies.
So getting to big companies in the nostrverse is a long way, but I do see the benefits of having them tho.
it will feel like a permissionless ecosystem 😅
so you can apply for https://andotherstuff.org/express-interest
On it! We're already done that this week with our Web of Trust foundation intiative ;-) Stay tuned! /cc nostr:npub17plqkxhsv66g8quxxc9p5t9mxazzn20m426exqnl8lxnh5a4cdns7jezx0
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That is 100% true. Nostr is not the clone of X. It is very authentic and unique.
This sounds visionary…but the next question is how would this be built as an implementable protocol?
NOSTR is the protocol. The apps mentioned, and the one you’re using now, are implementations of the protocol. So it’s already built, and many more apps are on the way.
Nostr Marketplace ! Businesses can flourish Peer to Peer. https://zapstore.dev/apps/naddr1qvzqqqr7pvpzqp5rpakttyjmmqkv5kda4py0qptxvm0lq3k98q5k82vh5g6d5sx9qqyxxmmd9e5xjumpu7yq3c
Like https://zapnode.io nostr:npub1xlx6vq570z6qd8jjalrl97322ft05kldcpu3gzu3mpquy3st282syywvhf for running nodes
🧡
💯
It's always been about the other stuff.
Well said 👏
Are you happy with how andotherstuff.org is being run?
I liked the idea, but frankly it did not deliver on it's promise of community involvement, transparency etc.
andotherstuff.org (the website) seems to have the right ideas to add in more devs and community, but it is just a boilerplate website of dead promises. So why not move forward on that? Just lacking a leader on both projects I suppose? Is this an inherent problem with these non profits, is transparency is a threat to the model?
I'm a previous opensats recipient btw, the project is doing OK but could do so much more.. I could do more. My last application/proposal may have been too ambitious, because I am ambitious. I am looking to disrupt, create community and accelerate here but all I got back was a boilerplate rejection. How am I supposed to guess at what needs doing, what my mistakes may have been, and apply my skills where they are needed? Opensats invested in me and my projects in the past, why is it so nebulous to determine a path forward afterward? 🤔
Happy black friday 🎉
jack hero! him invent bloosky n nostr! dvine make brane strong. him new to bitcoin and fix so every1 rich! save world! no verify, trust!
Nostr wins of it becomes more standardized and interoperable.
"50 different apps that all talk to each other".
About what though? What is Bitchat talking to DiVine about? What is Shakespeare talking to White Noise about?
Other pitches I get, but I'm not sure I understand this cross-talk-between-radically-different-apps pitch.
Whitenoise Vs Session, or are they one and the same and it's a matter of preference?
More apps are cool
But I want to use an uncensorable & truly FREE twitter clone tho 👌 we just need time & more censorship for people to switch
Most of the people on nostr:npub1ph0n0nlw37vwze32uwy68r9crhywmj89lnpljssyr6j6g2jv944svmcn4n have no idea what nostr is but use it everyday.
On Airchat, everyone talks daily without knowing anything about nostr. It’s seamless integration.
when jack says something obvious,
everybody listens
God is ecosystem
Agreed.
Nostr is part of a zero-knowledge trust (ZNT) ecosystem.
Started building ZNT last week, with Nostr as the first authorisation protocol. The reason was the only viable option is Hashicorp's vault technology. That would mean us being able to administer customer's trading portfolio keys.
There are other Magic 7 implementations that suck, OAuth.
Incidentally, X blocked out Cryptostatto account for talking about Nostr and sharing a get endpoint. Everything AI automated BS.
Wow. Thanks for the zap. Feels amazing to be honest. Will add more updates about this software. Feel truly blessed with regards to nostr and its potential. Still learning and staying humble.
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nostr adoption via twitter-clone is like playing hard-mode
All “alternative to ____” nostr apps will benefit from adoption, not cause it.
Bitcoin is open-source decentralized censorship-resistant protocol layer of value. Nostr is open-source decentralized censorship-resistant protocol layer of information.
It wins with all those other apps but also with the ones that compete with X.com! If in the US, X might be censorship resistant, that is not the case in most of other jurisdictions where Musk just does deals that involve X. So yeah, nostr also needs to be a clone for Twitter.
💯
It is amazing how jack seemed to be enemy #1 back at twitter, but now he is like hero #1
and for content creators nostr is a business-in-a-box... people just haven't realised that yet.
It wins if builders keep building and us shitposters keep shitposting.
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It would be desirable if Nostr one day achieved the same status as X (Twitter).
If you want to stay up-to-date, you currently have to use X.
If you were to use Nostr exclusively, you might still be largely trapped in the Bitcoin bubble. X is 14 years older than Nostr. But with a little patience, the time will come that the Nostr community is hoping for.
So grateful that #Nostr exists 🙏
would be awesome if you promote nostr on rogan
Yeah - we can find out why Jack banned and shadowbanned literally all of the antivaxx doctors off of Twitter.
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Nostr wins if it allows us to keep posting whatever we want. Truly keeps the 1st amendment. I can't even see the posts from people I follow in X. It's the most annoying thing.
Twitter used to win when you were around because people felt in community. I joined twitter only for the tech community. The community was thriving. The tech community in X is dead. RIP. People no longer share their code.
Nostr is going to be out of grave importance when certain groups find this place to do some strategic moves... this place is the only place you will see in the future where real rebels interact. No one needs celebrities... We need smart courageous people instead.
THAT WILL SHAPE NEW SOCIETY !!!!
This sounds cool but also kinda illegible
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It's a zap stack attack from jack thats not wack!
this is true... the protocol is powerful but user growth is important too...
i think it needs monetary incentives apart for organic v4v zaps.. that's the big conundrum...
I agree, but to your credit nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43qz9nhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wsfurw04, you and team tapped into a sweet spot for engagement with Twitter (short messaging, embedded video and images, etc). So, I don’t think it’s an either or….i think it’s matter of everything you said about Nostr being a base protocol for 50+ useful apps AND one or more of those being Twitter-like. nostr:nprofile1qqs9xtvrphl7p8qnua0gk9zusft33lqjkqqr7cwkr6g8wusu0lle8jcprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnsv9ex2ar09e6x7amw5254wh and nostr:nprofile1qqsraldwhvwcjgltmxwfu7kw8dqef2692yhzheuurd7k3kfy8cxjdqgpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpr9mhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5klh2fe have the market on this. Excited about future for all Nostr based apps.
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I like it better than twitter though. I don't like algorithms trying to manipulate me.
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True.
But also an uncensorable twitter clone is very useful in many countries... HK, Vzla, Cuba, China, Turkey, Brazil, UK, etc.
, Germany, etc.
We are getting there.
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Yes agreed which is why we are developing NOSTR fundraising as a value play with incredible upside and zero downside. No cost, no risk, cancel anytime, very simple yet very powerful when NOSTR, Bitcoin and ecash are combined with lightning of course and an easy way to adopt freedom tech without understanding anything🙂
Thank you Jack. The way you have incorporated square is ideal and a huge value prop which could be exclusive to square on a subscription side but open on the benefit side to all.
I'm quite new to Nostr but man it's exciting. So much to learn 💪
Yes, protocols win by disappearing into workflows. Feels like Nostr's "Twitter clone phase" is just onboarding. For comms, I see nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qqstkf79hpnykta7v3223e5cjcxpd0l7365cgfjqypww5qqmcsw8faqx6ravj as a tiny PR rail inside that 50 app stack.
So many possibilites!
Nice
Decentralizing repos to me is the coolest feature in nostrland atm. Waiting for you to add your apps to nostr gittr.space 👾🐈⬛
The underlying message of twitter =/= X
thank you true true
Like block and bitcoin? One giant corp that traps you? 😅
Exactly right. I tried to express that sentiment to fiatjaf earlier this year.
“Clones” rarely win over the original. But Nostr wins because it is the social / identity / marketplace layer for Bitcoin... and a decentralised communications layer for countless other apps.
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Important to note thought that this is a major pivot, with all that major pivoting entails.
This is a case of "as it turns out toothbrushes are useful to clean bathtub grout". Which can be true, but still, it's important to stay aware that toothbrushes were designed to brush your teeth with.
Not really a pivot, just leaning into the “os” of Nostr… Notes “and Other Stuff” transmitted by relays.
Notes is the familiar hook, and decentralized social media is a vital piece of the puzzle.
But just being a twitter clone is leaving the bulk of Nostr’s unique superpowers hidden.
It's a massive pivot though. Other stuff was never envisioned as primary.
Also what we're looking at now is way beyond even the other stuff part.
What we're looking at now is basically an API-substitute. Which is cool. But that's a far cry from a open social media protocol that ensures people can post without worrying about arbitrary moderation policies.
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This is the way. I’m on nostr for free speech, publishing, discussing and building infra.
From the non dev angle, it’s hard to understand the technical connections yet I’m bullish on owning your own data; btc is the cherry on top.
Have you listened to Dr. Robert Epstein (https://americasdigitalshield.com/) lay out the insidious influence Google and Facebook exert on behavior on Rogan and Danny Jones?
Listening the other day, I couldn’t help but think of nostr and the potential of distributed consensus networks as the backbone of an antidote.
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Sounds like too much fucking work.🚬☕️😒
I guess it will get massive adoption when the underlying technology gets invisible.
Nobody wants to configure network connections and sync stuff but everyone want collaborative coding/authoring for codes/docs and cloud shared saves of data. When that becomes as easy as google drive/office integration, nostr has won and Bitcoin with it.
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Exactly: ecosystem will connect, strengthen and accelerate the protocol. A win-win-win.
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Can you sell items on nostr?
If so, how? My lamb skin is not getting any attention 🙈
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Can’t wait
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Agreed
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“Love this vision Jack ⚡
Excited to see Nostr grow — learning & stacking sats every day 🙏”
Ex-Twitter got so insufferable. It‘s super toxic and I realised it affected me horribly so I finally will try out being on here as I think this is a much nicer app.
May I ask respectfully why you sold or why you came back with Nostr/primal? Did you find X so terrible that you just had to come back with social media people could enjoy again? 😃
Two thoughts on this:
1. We need to get out of the mindset of “building nostr apps”. We simply need to build great products that people want to use, and Nostr will be the underlying protocol. So totally agree with Jack on this.
2. In the long run, we will absolutely displace X and other closed platforms. It will be a grind, but we will wrestle away the network effects from gradually, then suddenly.
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What happened to Universes.to ?
Release soon?
nostr wins if it turns invisible
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A cocktail of half-built apps isn’t going to win us anything. A handful of incredible black holes that millions of people use and hop between with the same nsec will make us win. Instead of 50 apps, maybe it’ll only be 3 or so at first… the infinite slop machine is not the way. Cloning TikTok/Vine feels like a step backwards, a feeble attempt at virality.
💯 correct
Zero reason for anyone not interested in decentralized tech to use these service where is a mirror / replica of something which probably works better as a centralized solution.
We need to build things which are fundamental different because they are built on Nostr
I tend to agree, but all the half built slop is part of the process, and can't be stopped. it's also totally possibly that amazing things can come out of this process. most people just won't be aware any of it exists.
So it'sreally not an issue. The larger issue is a lack of good products thus far but it's super early days. patience pays
Iterations are the name of the game.
But we should be realistic — expecting 50+ apps to become popular before even 1 or 2 incredible nostr apps become popular is idealistic.
We should carve a few perfect gems, then that will inspire people to build new gems and to pull pieces from the existing ones. That’s exactly what we did with Damus and nostr:npub1ph0n0nlw37vwze32uwy68r9crhywmj89lnpljssyr6j6g2jv944svmcn4n
there isn't really a 'we' though. While there are many people with aligned visions, this is a tree with many branches heading in a multitude of directions. ultimately the direction will be directed by the market - the users.
We as in the history of jack
BlueSky -> Web5 -> OpenSats -> AOS
So much money and funding bouncing around. That’s the “we” I’m talking about.
Clients can be big as long as the spec is clear. You can still login to small clients with the same nsec…
We should be worried about big relays (data centralization) and not having enough relays e.g. data availability. This phobia to big clients mindless if data portability is still preserved.
Airchat is growing to be quite a big codebase, should I just stop developing it? We shouldn’t be parroting these ideas to developers then getting disappointed when all we get is half-baked projects that don’t go anywhere.
This phobia to big clients is* mindless if data portability is still preserved.
You thinking nostr wordle ? 👀
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This got me thinking so I came up with the Content Hook Strategy. I would appreciate feedback on this.
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But still , we like to have a twitter style app that has millions of users for news and life of people you follow ?
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I know this sounds like a dumb question but how does my Nostr account interact with bitchat?
How about a better, everything clone, all wrapped in one UX and polished like a diamond..
What happened to bitchat? It hasn’t been updated in like 2 months on the app store
